Discontinuous Syntax: Hyperbaton in Greek

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Discontinuous Syntax: Hyperbaton in Greek

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Dear friends,
I'm far from understanding everything in this book in Detail and I'm not through as well - but what I could read already is simply terrific and much the best on word order or pragmatic effects of Hyperbata I've read so far. It's made for classical Greek but you can Transfer the results on the text of the NT as well. The authors did a great Job - without much speculation, everything is being attested by clear examples (and translated as well). The title is: "Discontinuous Syntax: Hyperbaton in Greek"
If I have the time - I read it again....
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Hi Peter,

Here's my survey comparison of what they've done in Koine Greek.

http://evepheso.wordpress.com/studies-i ... n-phrases/

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Dear Mike,
that's what I call interesting - thanks for your review and the transfer to the NT - exactly that was my aim, after finishing the Hyperbaton-book, namely to look for NT examples and try to decode and classify them. I've gone through all your texts and exampels - a great job, thank you !
At least one who is interested in this important book !
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Peter
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I have read your posts @MAubrey several times and, frankly, I'm not 100% sure I understand even half of it. If focus is calling attention to or singling out, does hyperbaton focus on the inner noun within the nested ring of phrases? And are there other materials on hyperbaton that would be of use?
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Thom Chittom wrote: May 13th, 2022, 6:19 pm I have read your posts @MAubrey several times and, frankly, I'm not 100% sure I understand even half of it. If focus is calling attention to or singling out, does hyperbaton focus on the inner noun within the nested ring of phrases? And are there other materials on hyperbaton that would be of use?
Hyperbaton focuses on the element it puts at the beginning of the clause.
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Stephen Carlson wrote: May 16th, 2022, 8:47 pm
Thom Chittom wrote: May 13th, 2022, 6:19 pm I have read your posts @MAubrey several times and, frankly, I'm not 100% sure I understand even half of it. If focus is calling attention to or singling out, does hyperbaton focus on the inner noun within the nested ring of phrases? And are there other materials on hyperbaton that would be of use?
Hyperbaton focuses on the element it puts at the beginning of the clause.
How do you understand that for Matthew 1:22?

τὸ γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ γεννηθὲν ἐκ πνεύματός ἐστιν ἁγίου
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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Jonathan Robie wrote: May 18th, 2022, 12:04 pm
Stephen Carlson wrote: May 16th, 2022, 8:47 pm
Thom Chittom wrote: May 13th, 2022, 6:19 pm I have read your posts @MAubrey several times and, frankly, I'm not 100% sure I understand even half of it. If focus is calling attention to or singling out, does hyperbaton focus on the inner noun within the nested ring of phrases? And are there other materials on hyperbaton that would be of use?
Hyperbaton focuses on the element it puts at the beginning of the clause.
How do you understand that for Matthew 1:22?

τὸ γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ γεννηθὲν ἐκ πνεύματός ἐστιν ἁγίου
I distinguish between hyperbaton proper and the second-position placements of enclitics (here ἐστιν).
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Stephen Carlson wrote: May 19th, 2022, 11:09 pm I distinguish between hyperbaton proper and the second-position placements of enclitics (here ἐστιν).
OK. Are there any other subclasses of hypberbaton I need to be aware of?
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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