Please help me to identify the letters in greek

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Re: Please help me to identify the letters in greek

Post by Stephen Carlson » September 15th, 2020, 3:23 am

3d1l wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 10:44 pm
Another: "τῷ ςεναγμῷ τῶν οωτερίαν ουνεξευγμένην" - Here I did found that he was quoting Nazianzen and I found who was Gregory Nazianzen but from which of Nazianzen's books is he quoting?
Not sure because of the misspellings.
The first and the thrid word are ok. The second one I was able to find it exactly the same way in this other resouce. Here is a snip with the portion of the text with that word. For the other two that's the way they are presented in the book. Can you help me with those?
In this case ς = στ (the "stigma" ligature). Also you have confused ο (omicron) and σ (sigma).

If you intend to pursue this further, I strongly encourage you to take a course in Greek first.
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Re: Please help me to identify the letters in greek

Post by Shirley Rollinson » September 15th, 2020, 2:18 pm

3d1l wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 10:44 pm
Another: "τῷ ςεναγμῷ τῶν οωτερίαν ουνεξευγμένην" - Here I did found that he was quoting Nazianzen and I found who was Gregory Nazianzen but from which of Nazianzen's books is he quoting?
Not sure because of the misspellings.
The first and the thrid word are ok. The second one I was able to find it exactly the same way in this other resouce. Here is a snip with the portion of the text with that word. For the other two that's the way they are presented in the book. Can you help me with those?
You are dealing with an old type-face - see the 'long s' glyph used for the English 's' at the beginning or middle of a word. The glyph which is puzzling you in the Greek ςεναγμῷ is a 'lunate sigma' - it is just an old way of writing a sigma. The fourth and fifth words in the Greek phrase above should also begin with sigmas, not with omicrons - there has probably been a mistake in transcription.
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Re: Please help me to identify the letters in greek

Post by Jason Hare » September 16th, 2020, 2:34 pm

3d1l wrote:
September 14th, 2020, 10:44 pm
The first and the thrid word are ok. The second one I was able to find it exactly the same way in this other resouce. Here is a snip with the portion of the text with that word. For the other two that's the way they are presented in the book. Can you help me with those?
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