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Romans 1:2. Grammar enquiry

Posted: September 25th, 2020, 12:58 am
by davidstansfield
Romans 1:2
ὃ προεπηγγείλατο διὰ τῶν προφητῶν αὐτοῦ ἐν γραφαῖς ἁγίαις (which he promised beforehand through the prophets of him in the holy scriptures)

Hello,
Continuing my uncommon translation of Rom 1:1 as “… having been separated into …”: can the common translation of Rom 1:2, “which he promised beforehand…”, refer back to this separation? Specifically, is the morphology and syntax of ὃ προεπηγγείλατο compatible with the wider phrase, ἀφωρισμένος εἰς εὐαγγέλιον θεοῦ?

Re: Romans 1:2. Grammar enquiry

Posted: September 25th, 2020, 8:41 am
by Barry Hofstetter
davidstansfield wrote: September 25th, 2020, 12:58 am Romans 1:2
ὃ προεπηγγείλατο διὰ τῶν προφητῶν αὐτοῦ ἐν γραφαῖς ἁγίαις (which he promised beforehand through the prophets of him in the holy scriptures)

Hello,
Continuing my uncommon translation of Rom 1:1 as “… having been separated into …”: can the common translation of Rom 1:2, “which he promised beforehand…”, refer back to this separation? Specifically, is the morphology and syntax of ὃ προεπηγγείλατο compatible with the wider phrase, ἀφωρισμένος εἰς εὐαγγέλιον θεοῦ?
Look at the context:

Παῦλος δοῦλος Χριστοῦ Ἰησοῦ1, κλητὸς ἀπόστολος ἀφωρισμένος εἰς εὐαγγέλιον θεοῦ, 2  προεπηγγείλατο διὰ τῶν προφητῶν αὐτοῦ ἐν γραφαῖς ἁγίαις...

The natural antecedent for the neuter pronoun ὅ is εὐαγγέλιον. Your suggestion is essentially impossible.

Re: Romans 1:2. Grammar enquiry

Posted: September 28th, 2020, 7:00 pm
by davidstansfield
Barry Hofstetter wrote: September 25th, 2020, 8:41 am The natural antecedent for the neuter pronoun ὅ is εὐαγγέλιον.
Thank you,
Ok…
The answer to my question, ‘can the common translation of Rom 1:2’ refer back to this separation (directly), is no.

FYI, my proposed translation of εἰς in Rom 1:1, stands.
With the focus on the gospel, the meaning is that the promised, prophesied gospel anticipated this…

Re: Romans 1:2. Grammar enquiry

Posted: July 28th, 2021, 2:47 am
by davidstansfield
The precision of the pronoun ὅ for εὐαγγέλιον, helps. Thank you!
davidstansfield wrote: September 28th, 2020, 7:00 pm FYI, my proposed translation of εἰς in Rom 1:1, stands.
With the focus on the gospel, the meaning is that the promised, prophesied gospel anticipated this…
Anticipated what…?
Per e.g. Gal 3:8 (NRSV), “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, declared the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, ‘All the Gentiles shall be blessed in you.’”

The gospel concerning the Son is summarised in 1:3-4.

Something about the ‘into’, was anticipated…