οἵτινες in Gal 2:4

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Gregory Hartzler-Miller
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οἵτινες in Gal 2:4

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διὰ δὲ τοὺς παρεισάκτους ψευδαδέλφους, οἵτινες παρεισῆλθον κατασκοπῆσαι τὴν ἐλευθερίαν ἡμῶν ἣν ἔχομεν ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ, ἵνα ἡμᾶς καταδουλώσουσιν·

Cf Gal 1:7
εἰ μή τινές εἰσιν οἱ ταράσσοντες ὑμᾶς

In Gal 2:4, why not two words: "οἱ τινές"?
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Gregory Hartzler-Miller wrote: May 14th, 2021, 4:06 am In Gal 2:4, why not two words: "οἱ τινές"?
What do you think οἱ τινές is supposed to mean?
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Stephen Carlson wrote: May 14th, 2021, 6:49 am
Gregory Hartzler-Miller wrote: May 14th, 2021, 4:06 am In Gal 2:4, why not two words: "οἱ τινές"?
What do you think οἱ τινές is supposed to mean?
...οἱ τινές παρεισῆλθον

the certain ones who came...

Cf. Gal 2:12, πρὸ τοῦ γὰρ ἐλθεῖν τινας ἀπὸ Ἰακώβου
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I don’t think “the certain ones” makes any sense as it’s trying to be both definite and indefinite at the same time. On the other hand, οἵτινες is a common relative pronoun. Why reject the obvious meaning?
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③ Quite oft. ὅστις takes the place of the simple rel. ὅς, ἥ, ὅ; this occurs occasionally in ancient Gk. usage (s. Hdt. 4, 8, 1 al.; Thu. 6, 3, 1; Demosth. 38, 6; 17; Kühner-G. II 399f; Schwyzer II 643 lit.), but more freq. in later Gk.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 730). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
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What's being said is that οἵτινες is the plural of ὅστις. It is not a combination of the article (οἱ) and the indefinite pronoun (τινες). The article is definite, the indefinite pronoun is (well) indefinite. They do not go together.

οἵτινες = "who, whoever, anyone"
τινες = "certain ones, some people"
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Thanks.
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