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Jude 3 πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος

Posted: April 27th, 2012, 5:41 pm
by Jonathan Robie
Jude 3 wrote:πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος γράφειν ὑμῖν
περὶ τῆς κοινῆς ἡμῶν σωτηρίας
ἀνάγκην ἔσχον γράψαι ὑμῖν
παρακαλῶν ἐπαγωνίζεσθαι τῇ ἅπαξ παραδοθείσῃ τοῖς ἁγίοις πίστει.
How should I understand ποιούμενος in the phrase πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος?

Re: Jude 3 πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος

Posted: April 27th, 2012, 6:06 pm
by Stephen Carlson
Greek seems to like the use of the middle for ποιέω in verbal periphrases. It just seems to mean: "making every haste."

We recently discussed a similar construction in Heb 1:3 ποιησάμενος.

Stephen

Re: Jude 3 πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος

Posted: April 27th, 2012, 9:04 pm
by David Lim
Stephen Carlson wrote:Greek seems to like the use of the middle for ποιέω in verbal periphrases. It just seems to mean: "making every haste."
Or, to make it sound more like proper English, "making all haste". :)

Re: Jude 3 πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος

Posted: April 28th, 2012, 3:45 pm
by Jonathan Robie
Thanks - that's very helpful. I hadn't read the other thread, which is also useful.

Re: Jude 3 πᾶσαν σπουδὴν ποιούμενος

Posted: April 28th, 2012, 5:11 pm
by Eeli Kaikkonen
In Finnish we say "pitää kiirettä", "to keep haste". I wouldn't be surprised if the middle form was natural to Greeks because in this case it affects the subject - "to make (all) haste for oneself".

Edit: Although σπουδή means in the context 'zeal, pains, trouble, effort' (LSJ). I'm not sure if the middle makes as much sense with that meaning... Well, these were quick thoughts.