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Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 13th, 2014, 5:11 pm
by Stephen Hughes
In Greek, the New Testament is called "Καινὴ Διαθήκη".
Does the phrase "Καινὴ Διαθήκη" occur in the New Testament?
If "YES" how many times / where?
Suplimentary:
Does the phrase occur in the LXX? etc.
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 13th, 2014, 6:16 pm
by cwconrad
Stephen Hughes wrote:In Greek, the New Testament is called "Καινὴ Διαθήκη".
Does the phrase "Καινὴ Διαθήκη" occur in the New Testament?
If "YES" how many times / where?.
2x
Luke 22:2] καὶ τὸ ποτήριον ὡσαύτως μετὰ τὸ δειπνῆσαι, λέγων· τοῦτο τὸ ποτήριον
ἡ καινὴ διαθήκη ἐν τῷ αἵματί μου τὸ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν ἐκχυννόμενον.
1 Cor 11:25 ὡσαύτως καὶ τὸ ποτήριον μετὰ τὸ δειπνῆσαι λέγων· τοῦτο τὸ ποτήριον
ἡ καινὴ διαθήκη ἐστὶν ἐν τῷ ἐμῷ αἵματι· τοῦτο ποιεῖτε, ὁσάκις ἐὰν πίνητε, εἰς τὴν ἐμὴν ἀνάμνησιν.
Stephen Hughes wrote:Supplementary:
Does the phrase occur in the LXX? etc.
Jawohl!
Jer 38:31 (=31:31) Ἰδοὺ ἡμέραι ἔρχονται, φησὶν κύριος, καὶ διαθήσομαι τῷ οἴκῳ Ισραηλ καὶ τῷ οἴκῳ Ιουδα
διαθήκην καινήν,
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 13th, 2014, 7:46 pm
by Stephen Hughes
cwconrad wrote:2x
Luke 22:2, 1 Cor 11:25
Es tut mir leid, mein lieber Herr Conrad, diese beiden sind gute, aber es gibt weitere.
(Good start, but there's more)
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 13th, 2014, 8:30 pm
by cwconrad
Stephen Hughes wrote:cwconrad wrote:2x
Luke 22:2, 1 Cor 11:25
Es tut mir leid, mein lieber Herr Conrad, diese beiden sind gute, aber es gibt weitere.
(Good start, but there's more)
Heb. 8:8 cites the text of Jer 31:31:
μεμφόμενος γὰρ αὐτοὺς λέγει·
ἰδοὺ ἡμέραι ἔρχονται, λέγει κύριος,
καὶ συντελέσω ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον Ἰσραὴλ
καὶ ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον Ἰούδα διαθήκην καινήν ...
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 13th, 2014, 8:46 pm
by Stephen Hughes
Noch weitere... (Keep going...)
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 15th, 2014, 10:56 pm
by S Walch
2 Cor 3:6
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 15th, 2014, 11:34 pm
by Stephen Hughes
cwconrad wrote:Luke 22:2, 1 Cor 11:25 ... Heb. 8:8
S Walch wrote:2 Cor 3:6
I believe there are more. The question is still open.
cwconrad wrote:Jer 38:31 (=31:31)
This is the only one that I am aware of in the LXX, but I would be surprised if there were no more.
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 16th, 2014, 4:59 am
by S Walch
Heb 9:15 is the final one.
Unless there's a variant in a manuscript at Heb 12:24 for διαθήκης νέας.
Plus there really is only the one διαθήκην καινήν in the LXX. There are quite a lot of διαθήκη/ν/ς κυριου though (62) and διαθήκη/ν/ς μου (46).
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 17th, 2014, 4:35 pm
by Mike Baber
BlueLetterBible has a nifty search function that allows you to combine Strong's numbers in a search for multiple words occuring in the same verse. Probably less time consuming than using Logos or whatever one uses for more intensive searches.
Here's the result:
http://www.blbclassic.org/search/transl ... 2537&t=KJV
For LXX, I searched for the Hebrew equivalent, with the expectation that the Greek mirrored the Hebrew:
http://www.blbclassic.org/search/transl ... 1285&t=KJV
It's only one verse, so not hard to verify that.
Re: Trivia: The words Καινὴ Διαθήκη?
Posted: January 18th, 2014, 6:08 am
by Stephen Hughes
It seems that the other two verses I was counting on being included - Matthew 26:28 and Mark 14:24 - use the phrase in TR/Byz but not in SBL/NAUSB, so there are 2 correct answers dependent on the text one uses.
Blue letter Bible must use the TR or Byz as the basis of the search.