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Could σαπρός + στόμα + ἀγαθός allude to καρπὸς τοῦ στόματος?
Posted: January 27th, 2014, 12:35 am
by Stephen Hughes
Ephesians 4:29 (SGH added parenthetical phrase) wrote:Πᾶς λόγος σαπρὸς ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν μὴ ἐκπορευέσθω,ἀλλ’ εἴ τις ἀγαθὸς πρὸς οἰκοδομὴν τῆς χρείας {ἐκπορευέσθω ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν}, ἵνα δῷ χάριν τοῖς ἀκούουσιν.
"Every rotten word, don't let it proceed from your mouth (= bite your tongue /press your lips together if you want to say something bad), but if there is anything good for the edification of need, (let it proceed from your mouth), so that you may give grace to those who hear you."
Is this word σαπρός - an adjective for fruit - "rotten" together with στόμα (and ἀγαθὸς)
enough of a clue to conjure an allusion to the καρπὸς τοῦ στόματος / χειλέων imagery?
Re: Could σαπρός + στόμα + ἀγαθός allude to καρπὸς τοῦ στόμα
Posted: January 27th, 2014, 4:05 am
by Stephen Carlson
I don't know what work you want "allude" to do, but, for what it's worth, Matt 7:17-18, 12:33; Luke 6:43 demonstrate that the collocation of σαπρός and καρπός was alive.
Re: Could σαπρός + στόμα + ἀγαθός allude to καρπὸς τοῦ στόμα
Posted: January 27th, 2014, 7:52 am
by Stephen Hughes
Stephen Carlson wrote:I don't know what work you want "allude" to do
Yes, I don't either, the pin-it-down meaning of "allude" is elusive. This and the other couple of threads I've started recently are never going to arrive at a single, correct
objective answer. The best that I'm hoping to get is going to be "informed" subjectivity or "considered" / "educated" opinion.
Where I think it is going is somewhere like,
Proverbs 12:14 wrote:12:14 ἀπὸ καρπῶν στόματος ψυχὴ ἀνδρὸς πλησθήσεται ἀγαθῶν ἀνταπόδομα δὲ χειλέων αὐτοῦ δοθήσεται αὐτῷ
"From the fruits of the mouth, the soul of a man is satisfied (filled) with good, and the recompense of his lips will be given to him."
or somewhere else similar in the proverb / moral behaviour area.