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Ephesians 1:23

Posted: February 8th, 2019, 1:27 pm
by ronsnider1
This may have been addressed elsewhere, so if someone can direct me to a thread on this verse...the verse..
ἥτις ἐστὶν τὸ σῶμα αὐτοῦ, τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ τὰ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν πληρουμένου

I have no doubt that to pleroma is in apposition to to soma. There are so many different choices as to how to translate the last part of the verse (is pleroma active or passive in force), is the articular participle middle or passive (and with what force), and is the prepositional phrase the direct object of the articular participle or is it adverbial.

I suspect this passage has been addressed but the archives are nearly impossible to search effectively.

Any insight is appreciated,

Re: Ephesians 1:23

Posted: February 9th, 2019, 9:25 pm
by Gregory Hartzler-Miller
ronsnider1 wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 1:27 pm
ἥτις ἐστὶν τὸ σῶμα αὐτοῦ, τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ τὰ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν πληρουμένου

I have no doubt that to pleroma is in apposition to to soma. There are so many different choices as to how to translate the last part of the verse (is pleroma active or passive in force), is the articular participle middle or passive (and with what force), and is the prepositional phrase the direct object of the articular participle or is it adverbial.
I am struck by the phrase parallel in Eph. 3:19. Could that parallel help us draw out the grammatical sense that was intended by the author in the last part of 1:23?

1:23 .......................... τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ τὰ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν πληρουμένου
3:19 ἵνα πληρωθῆτε εἰς πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ Θεοῦ

Re: Ephesians 1:23

Posted: February 10th, 2019, 8:57 am
by Barry Hofstetter
I have resisted answering here, because it would be tempting to get in to some fun hermeneutical and theological issues, and that's not what B-Greek is about. However, I found it interesting that the Vulgate renders πλήρωμα with plēnitudo, for which there appears to be no active or passive distinction. It simply means "fullness" and that's also always how I've read πλήρωμα in this context.