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ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου

Posted: October 6th, 2011, 12:12 am
by Jonathan Robie
John 3:25 wrote:ἐγένετο οὖν ζήτησις ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου μετὰ Ἰουδαίου περὶ καθαρισμοῦ.
Why ἐκ? Does this mean a dispute among John's disciples, or something else?

Re: ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου

Posted: October 6th, 2011, 2:01 am
by George F Somsel
Here it is a partitive with the genitive. See Robertson A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, pp 514-515.

Re: ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου

Posted: October 7th, 2011, 12:48 am
by Jonathan Robie
George F Somsel wrote:Here it is a partitive with the genitive. See Robertson A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, pp 514-515.
So you read ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου as "from some of the disciples of John"? And the dispute arose between "some of the disciples of John" and "a Jew"?

Re: ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου

Posted: October 7th, 2011, 1:38 am
by George F Somsel
So you read ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου as "from some of the disciples of John"? And the dispute arose between "some of the disciples of John" and "a Jew"?
Correct.

Re: ἐκ τῶν μαθητῶν Ἰωάννου

Posted: October 7th, 2011, 2:00 am
by Jonathan Robie
Thanks - that made sense. I'm on the road this week, I realized today that I could look read Robertson online - thanks for steering me in the right direction.