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εξιλάσομαι

Posted: September 15th, 2014, 1:50 pm
by Michael Davis
Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?

Re: εξιλάσομαι

Posted: September 15th, 2014, 3:06 pm
by cwconrad
Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
I'm not sure what the reference "G1837.2" is supposed to refer to -- perhaps
Gen 32:21 καὶ ἐρεῖτε Ἰδοὺ ὁ παῖς σου Ιακωβ παραγίνεται ὀπίσω ἡμῶν. εἶπεν γάρ Ἐξιλάσομαι τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ ἐν τοῖς δώροις τοῖς προπορευομένοις αὐτοῦ, καὶ μετὰ τοῦτο ὄψομαι τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ· ἴσως γὰρ προσδέξεται τὸ πρόσωπόν μου.
The verb in question is ἐξιλάσκομαι; the form you've cited is the future 1 sg. indic. active. The Hebrew verb here used in the Masoretic text does bear the sense "propitiate", so I can't see where the problem lies.

Re: εξιλάσομαι

Posted: September 15th, 2014, 5:37 pm
by Stephen Carlson
cwconrad wrote:
Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
I'm not sure what the reference "G1837.2" is supposed to refer to
Looks like a Strong's Number to me.

Re: εξιλάσομαι

Posted: September 15th, 2014, 8:08 pm
by Ken M. Penner
Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
I suspect the confusion comes from the "Strong's" number, in which G1837 is ἐξηχέω / ἐξηχέομαι and G1837.2 is ἐξιλάσκομαι.

Re: εξιλάσομαι

Posted: September 15th, 2014, 8:25 pm
by Stephen Carlson
Ken M. Penner wrote:
Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
I suspect the confusion comes from the "Strong's" number, in which G1837 is ἐξηχέω / ἐξηχέομαι and G1837.2 is ἐξιλάσκομαι.
That must be it. Note that the ".2" part covers extensions to the original scheme (I guess to cover the LXX), so if one is looking at the original or NT-only form of Strong's, one will only find ἐξηχέω "echo".