Romans 1:17

Clwinbery at aol.com Clwinbery at aol.com
Mon Aug 5 18:25:57 EDT 2002


This verse has been oft discussed on b-greek. Go to Feb. and following in 
1996 for a good string.
What follows is a good posting from Edward Hobbs.


[Since the meaning of Romans 1:17 has come up again, and since Carlton 
Winbery 
has most kindly referenced a posting of mine in the midst of that discussion, 
I 
am re-sending it for the benefit of those who did not see it (them, actually) 
four months ago. Those who have already seen it should simply delete.]

Dear Colleagues,

Checking in from my frozen basement this late Sunday afternoon, 
I find a late-Saturday post on Romans 1:17 from Edgar Krentz, and then a 
second 
post each from Carl Conrad and Carlton Winbery. But a posting by me earlier 
on 
Saturday afternoon does not seem to have gone out (not even to me); so I will 
re-send it (attached below, to this), for your edification. Let me add a 
response each to Edgar and to Carl;
Edgar's suggestion that EK PISTEWS might be an example of SYNTAXIS
APO KOINOU, relating to both the NP preceding and the VP following, was an 
absolute delight to me -- for the simple reason that I had always thought 
that 
this was my personal discovery decades ago, but since I had never published 
on 
it, I lacked the right to claim it in public. Now I see that Edgar was right 
in there, too (and perhaps thousands of others). And since I too thought it 
made good sense (and so taught my students the possibility), I leap to 
Edgar's 
support. (As though Edgar Krentz ever needed my support!)
And Carl's further post shows that I had not altogether understood his 
earlier posting. He seems to be right where I have found myself for lo! these 
40+ years of giving seminars on Romans. So I can cease shuddering because of 
my disagreement with him!
Carl, your former student who worked on Paul's use of the diatribe 
must certainly have made use of Rudolf Bultmann's 1910 dissertation on this 
exact topic. That is a work that deserves more use than it has received. And 
for Paul's use of rhetoric, Hans Dieter Betz's commentary on Galatians in the 
Hermeneia series gives overwhelming evidence. (When we had a celebration in 
NYC at the time of Dieter's commentary being published, someone remarked that
he always KNEW that when Hermeneia finally got around to publishing a
commentary WRITTEN in English, and not translated from German, it would be
written by a German!)

--Edward Hobbs



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