[B-Greek] Mounce Basics of Biblical Greek Indexes
Louis Sorenson
llsorenson at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 13 15:39:30 EDT 2008
Susan,
I remember your post a while ago about the switch and the notes. All-in-all, I think Croy's book is simple and straightforward. The
sentences and extracts from the LXX are the best thing about the book. I settled on Mounce for the refresher course because it is the book most people have studied under, has many helps, and is a through kind-of beginning reference grammar. Personally, I like a reading as you learn approach. (I probably liked it because I took Latin in 5 weeks using the book Latin via Ovid which used the same approach).
The group I'm associated with uses an adaptation of Clarence Hale's Let's Study Greek by Dr. Boyce of Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN, USA (now titled Let's Read Greek which was actually the second book Hale wrote). Hale's book is a kind of graded reader similar to JACT or Athenaze I suppose. He was on the cutting edge in his time in the late 1950s' and the book, published by Moody Press went through many printings all they way through the seventies. Moody Press ceded some of the rights back to the family. Dr. Boyce made an abridgement cutting the chapters down to about 32. I guess Hale's wife was very reluctant to allow any changes, and Boyce's version (a syllabus) is the only one in print today. Hale's book is well rounded, but it needs updating.
Students don't get enough narrative, and the narrative they get is not varied enough. It's usually just short little unrelated lines of sentences manipulating words with no context. Most books that use narratives don't included enough or varied enough forms. I've thought about creating extra stories of varied types: Historical narrative, Dialogue, philosophical/spiritual, action and poetic.
I think a wiki may be the way to go. I look at the book like a mini-Smyth's grammar of the New testament (but of course lacking the examples of Smyth.) Maybe the lack of an index is a Zondervan thing. I don't understand how "The NT Syntax book" 'Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics' by Wallace 1996 has no index at all other than a list of scripture references.
Louis Sorenson
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:53:57 -0400
From: susan at read-the-bible.org
To: llsorenson at hotmail.com
CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Mounce Basics of Biblical Greek Indexes
When I was teaching using Mounce online, I started pencilling in index
entries in my textbook, as well as the workbook; Mounce has many
important points squirreled away in footnotes both in the workbook and
the textbook.
Eventually I gave up and just started posting comments like "I'm pretty
sure Mounce mentioned this somewhere, but I can't find it right now"
and often a student would supply the page number. I also started, in
Greek II, to recommend the companion Zondervan morphology book and
Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, both of which are compatible
with Mounce's abbreviations and terminology.
However, I've now switched to Croy's Primer of Biblical Greek, which
I bought as a BibleWorks add-on. It's fully searchable, which feature
I use a lot in referring students to examples and explanations.
If you don't get a response with an index ready-made, you might
consider posting a wiki on the Internet, and building your own index
as you go along. You could give your students access and let them
build as well, if that suits your style and technological setup.
Grace and peace of the Lord to you all --
Susan Jeffers
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