[B-Greek] Greek NT audio

Carl Thomas slewfoot at rangeweb.net
Sat Sep 20 18:15:52 EDT 2008


Randall Buth wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> David,
>>
>> I too thank you for the post. To me the eta sounds like a short English e
>> as in pet.  Randall would know better but I'm not sure there is any evidence
>> for eta being pronounced thus, and it is pretty distracting.
>>     
>
> There is evidence for HTA being pronounced as a long-timed version of
> 'e' in pet in the fifth century BCE. But the guy was not reading
> long-vowels and short vowels. So it is just accidental. And certainly
> not KOINH. And Pennington is not KOINH either.
>
>   
>> . . .
>> If Randall is advising us to wait until we have more perfect NT Greek to
>> listen to I suspect we will be waiting a while.
>>     
>
> There are well-read materials available, though they cost money.
>
>   
>> . . .
>> I know about the studies that stress the importance of audio
>> learning, but in my case I suspect that all my listening has not really
>> improved my Greek much.
>>     
>
> This may reflect a common misinterpretation of what is being stated in second
> language acquisition studies. It is COMMUNICATION in the language that
> counts. USING the language. While passive listening to readings is certainly
> of benefit, it will not produce internalization on its own. There is a sense in
> which may not be interesting enough (routine/repeated), and another sense in
> which it is usually not fully comprehensible. (We have some tricks for dealing
> with the last point.)
>
> Many students assume that listening to recordings of a scripture passage is
> 'audio learning' and that if they "do their grammar book" and listen
> to the scripture
> passages, then they are doing everything required for success. From a
> communicative language theory approach, they may not even have started.
> Or have only partially started in an optimistic reading.
> Communication means just that, trying to communicate something in the
> language, both directions, and orally/audio in the beginning at least. That
> will start to put the language inside someone.
>
> ERRWSQE
> IWANHS
>
>
>
>   
"There are well-read materials available, though they cost money."  
Randall would you tell us where we can get these?

-- 
Carl Thomas
Ashland, Montana 59003
United States of America




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