[B-Greek] FW: 2 Peter 1:1 EN as "by" or "in"

Nicholas Lamme nlamme at midamerica.edu
Fri Sep 26 20:57:14 EDT 2008


To all,

    I had an additional thought about what Elizabeth wrote, citing Kelly and
WBC.  I find the translation of justice very unsatisfying if the thrust of
Peter's argument is ethical.  Justice is inherently forensic.  It is
inseparable form the ethical, as all judicial matters are, but it is a false
dichotomy to separate ethics form the forensic as if they were two distinct
entities.  If DIKAIOSUNH means justice than I think we are forced to
recognize what he is saying as forensic.  This is not necessarily my thought
about what Peter says (I've already explained that); it is simply the
logical and reasonable inference from what Kelly and Bauckham posit.
Thanks.

Nicholas Lamme
CLIR
Guadalupe, Costa Rica
www.clir.net




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From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:11:27 -0700
To: greek B-Greek <B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2 Peter 1:1 EN as "by" or "in"


On Sep 26, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Nicholas Lamme wrote:

>  I have a question about TOIS ISOTIMOV HiMIN LAXOUSIN PISTIV EN
> DIKAIOSUNH...  All translations that I have checked translate the
> preposition EN as "by" (I live in Costa Rica--the Spanish translates
> it por, which could be by or through...it is ambiguous in Spanish
> taken all by itself).  Of all the instances in the NT (of which I am
> aware--I find six), the only place where "by" is a very viable
> translation of EN is Acts 17:31 and even there it doesn't read as
> well as "in".  Hence, my question why 2 Peter 1.1 translates it "by".

Following Kelly and Bauckham "through the justice", I would understand
EN here as a marker of means or agency. This is not a Pauline text and
Peter's use of DIKAIOSUNH is probably more ethical than forensic.

Elizabeth Kline




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