[B-Greek] Ephesians 1:22
Blue Meeksbay
bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 8 19:59:53 EST 2010
Hi Michael –
Thanks for the information. However, it seems there may be some disagreement on this point, but I am open to such a possibility. I will search out the parameters on this and the other things you mentioned.
One thing, however, that is interesting. What if this is our example! So many times, and rightly so, we will search for other examples, yet what if the example is right under our nose? It seems context should help us identify usage, and it seems the context of this verse and the context of the entire epistle seems to warrant an understanding that the writer is saying more than just the fact that Christ is given to be head “to” the church.
It seems the context the writer of the epistle is trying to convey is that the church carries the authority of Christ. This seems to be the implication of verse 23 – hHTIS ESTIN TO SWMA AUTOU, TO PLHRWMA TOU TA PANTA EN PASIN PLHROUMENOU. As such, it seems the context is declaring that the church is called to carry out the wishes of her head, and that is the reason she is seen as sitting with him upon his throne (Eph. 2:6) and that is the reason why he has chosen to rule through or with his body.
Now, all that being said, I would never make a dogmatic assertion, based upon one example (if, indeed, this is an example), that such and such is true. I believe there are some things that cannot be pinned down with any certainty. That is why I think we should be open to each other’s opinions. This may be one of those cases.
Perhaps, after doing the searches you encouraged me to do, and looking at your review, I will not think so, but if not, I guess I will just have to wait until I meet Paul and ask him, “Paul, what exactly did you mean by KAI AUTON EDWKEN KEFALHN hUPER PANTA THi EKKLHSIAi!”
Best regards,Blue Harris
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From: Michael Aubrey <mga318 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 2:28:43 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Ephesians 1:22
> Could not the
recipient be AUTON as was already shared?
No, Accusatives
mark that which is given. They never mark the recipient. Datives mark
who receives what is given.
>The
constitution would equal QEOS; the armed forces would equal PANTA; the
> president
would
equal AUTOU (Christ); makes would equal EDWKEN; the
> commander
in chief
would equal AUTON (KEFALHN hUPER PANTA ), and the
> joint chiefs of
staff would equal THi EKKLHSIAi.
> This scenario,
obviously, takes EDWKEN more in the sense of
“appoint.”
Indeed, and the sense "to appoint," as far as I know, also
doesn't have a dative. DIDWMI with the meaning of "I appoint" either
takes a locative prepositional phrase (in the sense of "put/set") or a
INA clause (in the sense of "delegate"). I haven't checked every example, but at one point, I did check quite a few.
Again, I'd be curious if you could find any.
Here's how I take it:
[Object1-Theme AUTON] EDWKEN [Adjunct KEFALHN
hUPER PANTA] [Object2-Recipient THi EKKLHSIAi].
And (he) gave
[OBJ-THEME him] [ADJUNCT as head over all (things)] [Oblique-Recipient
to the church].
Part II of my review of Paul Danove's recent book deals with DIDWMI a bit with reference to the structure of Bauer's
lexicon.
http://evepheso.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/book-review-verbs-of-transference-by-paul-danove-part-ii/
Mike
http://evepheso.wordpress.com
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