[B-Greek] 1 Corinthians 12:27

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 13 10:14:43 EST 2010


My apologies for the scrambled egg presentation.  I think one of the Microsoft weekly updates must have introduced a bug in IE since this has been occuring recently.  The continuation of "ⓒused w. prepositions:" is below my comment on the value of BDAG. 
 george
gfsomsel 


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From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
To: Peter Schrock <peter at glorifyinghim.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 8:00:23 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Corinthians 12:27

Ὑμεῖς δέ ἐστε σῶμα Χριστοῦ καὶ μέλη ἐκ μέρους.
hUMEIS DE ESTE SWMA XRISTOU KAI MELH EK MEROUS.
 
 
ⓒused w. prepositions: 
 Arndt, William, Frederick W. Danker and Walter Bauer. A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature. 3rd ed. s.v. μέρος. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000.
 
Sometimes prepositions don't quite mean what one might think.  Here is a particular instance of such a situation where EK is not indicating a source or a partitive but rather gives the word MEROS an adverbial sense.  I would strongly recommend that you obtain this lexicon if you are truly interested in the study of the NT in Greek.  There really is no substitute.  
 ἀνὰ μέροςone after the other, in succession (s. ἀνά2) 1 Cor 14:27.—ἀπὸ μέρουςin part (Dio Chrys. 28 [45], 3; Ael. Aristid. 32, 4 K.=12 p. 135 D.; Ptolem., Apotel. 2, 10, 2; Epict. 1, 27, 17 διʼ ὅλων ἢ ἀ. μ.; PRyl 133, 17; BGU 1201, 15 [2 a.d.]; PTebt 402, 2; POxy 1681, 9; Just., A II, 10, 8 Χριστῷ …τῷ …ἄ. μ. γνωσθέντι) πώρωσις ἀ. μ. a partial hardening Ro 11:25. τολμηρότερον …ἀ. μ. very boldly on some points 15:15. καθὼς ἐπέγνωτε ἡμᾶς ἀ. μ. as you have understood us in part 2 Cor 1:14. Also for a while: ἀ. μ. ἐμπλησθῆναί τινοςenjoy someone’s company for a while Ro 15:24; cp. 2 Cor 2:5 in some degree.—ἐκ μέρουςin part, individually (Ael. Aristid. 54 p. 695 D.; 698; SIG 852, 30 … ὅλη, ἐκ μέρους δέ… ; PLond III, 1166, 14 p. 105 [42 a.d.]; BGU 538, 33; PRyl 233, 6; Philo, Mos. 2, 1 al.)
individually 1 Cor 12:27. ἐκ μ. γινώσκεινknow in part 13:9a, 12; cp. vs. 9b. τὸ ἐκ μ. what is ‘in part’ = imperfect vs. 10.george
gfsomsel 


… search for truth, hear truth, 
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth, 
defend the truth till death.


- Jan Hus
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From: Peter Schrock <peter at glorifyinghim.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 1:22:40 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] 1 Corinthians 12:27

I am kind of new to this list...

I have been looking at 1 Corinthians 12:27 for a while and I wanted to get
some people look at what I am thinking.  I am especially  looking for those
who are teaching Greek or who are professionally translating (but I would
like to hear from everyone too).  I myself have studied Greek for about 6
years now on my own using a variety of textbooks and resources, but I want
to hear from those who know more than me.  When you respond could you please
also note your knowledge level of Greek briefly for me.

After Paul writes,"you (believers in Corinth) are the body of Christ" he
continues with a peculiar phrase.  It literally reads from the Greek, "and
members out of a part" or "members from a portion" (καὶ μέλη ἐκ μέρους).
(KAI MELH EK MEROUS)  It follows then in my understanding that Paul was
telling those in Corinth that they should view themselves as members out of
a portion of Christ's body.  This also follows with the following verses in
that not every church has Apostles or every other gift he lists there.  In
addition, it also follows with the context of the chapter when this section
begins with: "we (not just those at Corinth) were all baptized into one
body."  Nevertheless, most translations render the second half of 1
Corinthians 12:27 as a paraphrase.  Am I missing the meaning of this verse
by rendering it literally or is it some kind of idiom?  It just seems to me
that "MEROS" is denoting that those in Corinth are only a part of the body
of Christ and not the whole thing in and of themselves.

Peter Schrock

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