[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:3

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 22 14:56:58 EDT 2010


Roger wrote:
 
<Ephesians 2:3 has, in part:

...KAI hHMEQA TEKNA FUSEI hORGHS...

NIV translates this as "...we were by nature objects of wrath..." while KJV has "...and were by nature the children of wrath..."

The two translations convey entirely different concepts to me.

Are the NIV translators providing an accurate translation of TEKNA as "object"?  If yes, what is the rational for the translation?>
 
Hi,Roger,
 
We have to do with a Hebrew idiom.  ben X can mean not 
the son of X but something characterized by x.
Son of Iniquity means a bad guy.
 
So, I think NIV hit this one out of the park.  Another example
of where a literal rendering is more misleading.

Mark L


FWSFOROS MARKOS

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From: rhutchin at aol.com <rhutchin at aol.com>
Subject: [B-Greek] Ephesians 2:3
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 12:25 PM



Ephesians 2:3 has, in part:

...KAI hHMEQA TEKNA FUSEI hORGHS...

NIV translates this as "...we were by nature objects of wrath..." while KJV has "...and were by nature the children of wrath..."

The two translations convey entirely different concepts to me.

Are the NIV translators providing an accurate translation of TEKNA as "object"?  If yes, what is the rational for the translation?

Roger Hutchinson




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