[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:3

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 22 15:24:01 EDT 2010


Yes, the Byzantine text has ἦμεν while the better manuscripts have ἤμεθα.  I realize that you are Orthodox and therefore us the Byz text, but the NA27 had a member named Karavidopoulos  whom I presume to be Orthodox as well.  It's a matter of evaluating the manuscripts.  Let's not, however, continue this question since this is not the forum for text-critical questions and there is another forum for that purpose (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/textualcriticism/).  
 
I do have one question for you:  Why do your posts sometimes come through with the formatting displayed as below?

 george
gfsomsel 


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From: Nikolaos Adamou <nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com>
To: rhutchin at aol.com; b-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Ephesians 2:3



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καὶ ἤμεθα τέκνα φύσει ὀργῆς ὡς καὶ οἱ λοιποί·...KAI HMEQA TEKNA FUSEI hORGHS hWS KAI hOI LOIPOI...καὶ ἦμεν τέκνα φύσει ὀργῆς, ὡς καὶ οἱ λοιποί·...KAI HMEN TEKNA FUSEI hORGHS hWS KAI hOI LOIPOI...

Continues ἤμεθα  or not ἦμεν ? 

Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.                         
Associate Professor of Business Management       
BMCC / CUNY          





> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:25:24 -0400
> From: rhutchin at aol.com
> Subject: [B-Greek] Ephesians 2:3
> 
> 
>  Ephesians 2:3 has, in part:
> 
> ...KAI hHMEQA TEKNA FUSEI hORGHS...
> 
> NIV translates this as "...we were by nature objects of wrath..." while KJV has "...and were by nature the children of wrath..."
> 
> The two translations convey entirely different concepts to me.
> 
> Are the NIV translators providing an accurate translation of TEKNA as "object"?  If yes, what is the rational for the translation?
> 
> Roger Hutchinson
> 
>  
> 
> 
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