[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:8 - ESTE SESWSMENOI
Timothy Lawson
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Tue Mar 23 16:12:17 EDT 2010
Roger,
The term "periphrastic" describes the use of ESTE (the be verb) as a helper (auxillary) verb to the participle SESWSMENOI. So rather than just construction SOZO in straight forward way that could give a similar sense on its own two verbs are used.
Scotty
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Subject: [B-Greek] Ephesians 2:8 - ESTE SESWSMENOI
Ephesians 2:8 has the phrase, "...ESTE SESWSMENOI..." which KJV basically translates as "...ye are saved..." while many newer translations have "...you have been saved..."
ESTE appears to be a pretty straightforward present indicative verb that should mean "you are." I am not sure what SESWSMENOI is except that Robertson calls it the "perfect passive periphrastic indicative of sôzô" which means nothing to me.
The NET Bible translationnotes apparently say, “The perfect tense in Greek connotes both completed action (‘youhave been saved’) and continuing results (‘you are saved’)” which, to me, doesn't seem to explain what the purpose of ESTE is.
Given all this, it appears to me that Paul is saying something like, "you were saved in the past and you are still saved right now."
So, can someone tell me what ESTE SESWSMENOI means all by itself as if you read it somewhere other than the Bible?
Roger Hutchinson
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