[B-Greek] Replacing the periphrastic use of ESTE SESWMENOI in Eph. 2:8

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Tue Mar 23 20:15:51 EDT 2010


On Mar 23, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Timothy Lawson wrote:

>   If SESWSQE were to replace ESTE SESWMENOI, it seems to me that it would need a prounoun to help complete the sense, is that correct? If so, would it need to use SESWSQE SU to correspond to the nominative case of the participle or would the pronoun be in some other case?
> 
> How far off am I?

Not sure I understand your question. In greek a verb is a complete clause. No pronoun needed. The form SESWSQE appears in the following citation, note that there is no pronoun for subject of SESWSQE.  

Cyrillus Theol., Commentarius in xii prophetas minores (4090: 001)
“Sancti patris nostri Cyrilli archiepiscopi Alexandrini in xii prophetas, 2 vols.”, Ed. Pusey, P.E.
Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1868, Repr. 1965.
Volume 2, page 465, line 16

ἐπωφλήσαμεν ζωήν. εἰ γὰρ “Εἷς ὑπὲρ πάντων ἀπέθανεν,
“ἄρα οἱ πάντες ἀπέθανον” ἐν αὐτῷ, καὶ ζῆν ὀφείλομεν
ἑαυτοῖς μὲν, οὐκέτι, κατά γε τὸν εἰκότα καὶ ὀρθῶς ἔχοντα
λόγον, μᾶλλον δὲ “τῷ ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἀποθανόντι καὶ ἐγερθέντι.”
καὶ ταύτῃτοί φησιν Εἰ καλὸν ἐνώπιον ὑμῶν· δῆλον δὲ ὅτι τὸ
τῆς μετὰ σαρκὸς οἰκονομίας μυστήριον· εἰ σέσωσθε δι'
αὐτοῦ καὶ πεπράχατε δεξιῶς, ἐγνώκατε δέ με Σωτῆρα καὶ
λυτρωτὴν, καὶ τὸν ὑπὲρ τῆς ἁπάντων ζωῆς ἀνατλάντα
θάνατον, δότε στήσαντες, τουτέστιν ὁρίσαντες, τὸν μισθόν μου
ἢ ἀπείπασθε. πλὴν εὐγνώμονες οἱ ἐξ ἐθνῶν. ἔστησαν γὰρ
τὸν μισθὸν παρισούμενον μὲν οὐδαμῶς· ἐοικότα δέ πως οἷς 

Cyrillus Theol., Commentarius in xii prophetas minores (4090: 001)
“Sancti patris nostri Cyrilli archiepiscopi Alexandrini in xii prophetas, 2 vols.”, Ed. Pusey, P.E.
Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1868, Repr. 1965.
Volume 2, page 465, line 16

EPWFLHSAMEN ZWHN. EI GAR “hEIS hUPER PANTWN APEQANEN,
“ARA hOI PANTES APEQANON” EN AUTWi, KAI ZHN OFEILOMEN
hEAUTOIS MEN, OUKETI, KATA GE TON EIKOTA KAI ORQWS ECONTA
LOGON, MALLON DE “TWi hUPER hHMWN APOQANONTI KAI EGERQENTI.”
KAI TAUTHiTOI FHSIN EI KALON ENWPION hUMWN· DHLON DE hOTI TO
THS META SARKOS OIKONOMIAS MUSTHRION· EI SESWSQE DI'
AUTOU KAI PEPRACATE DEXIWS, EGNWKATE DE ME SWTHRA KAI
LUTRWTHN, KAI TON hUPER THS hAPANTWN ZWHS ANATLANTA
QANATON, DOTE STHSANTES, TOUTESTIN hORISANTES, TON MISQON MOU
H APEIPASQE. PLHN EUGNWMONES hOI EX EQNWN. ESTHSAN GAR
TON MISQON PARISOUMENON MEN OUDAMWS· EOIKOTA DE PWS hOIS 

Elizabeth Kline
 






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