[B-Greek] Do we like the same books?
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Tue May 18 10:31:34 EDT 2010
John egrapse
<Do we like the same books?>
Hi, John,
No, I don't think we do. Tastes differ radically on this list. Some people really like
Hoyle, others do not. Some actually prefer Thayer to BDAG. Machen has his defenders.
Many love Athenaze, others prefer something more inductive and systematic like
Chase and Phillips. hOI MEN AGAPWSI NA27 hOI DE Robinson-Pierpoint. This guy likes to
read e-texts, others like the smell of old books. Homer is not everyone's cup of
tea, just like not everyone likes tea.
You raise a good Meta-Question that I have been thinking about a lot lately:
How much of B-Greek is just the expression of taste? The minute analysis of
Greek word order repels me, but why? I like Greek word order. I like analysis.
Put them together and I feel all you are doing is trying to subjectively read the mind of an
author whose words are sufficiently clear without getting into which clause is more
semantically salient. But that's just me. It's just my taste. It means nothing.
I can't stand barbecue potato chips whereas my kids love them. So every weekend we
have the same argument. "Dad, you love potato chips. You love barbecue sauce. It
makes no sense." I know, I say, but there is no accounting for taste. And so we buy
the plain chips.
Iver wrote (quoting Hoyle)
<The Greek article with a noun marks that the referent is Hearer-old, which may
be either Discourse-old, or Discourse-new and part of an open scenario. Lack of the article
with a noun marks that the referent is salient, which may be either Discourse-new and
Hearer-new (so naturally salient), or Hearer-old but marked as salient due to some higher
discourse function, such as marking clause-level focus, marking theme at higher levels of
discourse, or highlighting interpersonal relations.>
Hi, Iver,
How can one guy (Iver) find this the most helpful thing every written on the Greek article and
another guy (me) respond to this only by quoting the Meta-Linguist Polonius:
"Mad call I it, for, to define true madness,
What is't but to be nothing else but mad?" (Hamlet II,ii, 93ff)
How is that possible? It's the same book. Iver and I have 99.9% the
same DNA. How can Hoyle's e-book provoke such different reactions?
Do we ever learn anything on B-Greek or do we just express our tastes?
If we changed the list to B-Potato Chips, would we be in the same place?
<Do we like the same books?>
Well, presumably we all like the same books of the Greek NT. But,
since tastes differ so much, I sometimes wonder if our differing approaches
mean that we wind up reading different books.
Mark L
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Mark L
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