[B-Greek] TI hUMIN DOKEI? (was 2 Peter 1:20 and context

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Fri May 28 17:05:49 EDT 2010


On May 28, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Kimmo Huovila wrote:

> TI hUMIN DOKEI?



The idiom (quote above) appears in a different variant OU DOKW SOI found 32 places in TLG (but not in NT) or is this a different idiom.


Sophocles Trag., Electra
Line 1041


{ΗΛ.} Τῷ σῷ δικαίῳ δῆτ' ἐπισπέσθαι με δεῖ;
{ΧΡ.} Ὅταν γὰρ εὖ φρονῇς, τόθ' ἡγήσῃ σὺ νῷν.
{ΗΛ.} Ἦ δεινὸν εὖ λέγουσαν ἐξαμαρτάνειν.
{ΧΡ.} Εἴρηκας ὀρθῶς ᾧ σὺ πρόσκεισαι κακῷ.
{ΗΛ.} Τί δ'; οὐ δοκῶ σοι ταῦτα σὺν δίκῃ λέγειν;
{ΧΡ.} Ἀλλ' ἔστιν ἔνθα χἠ δίκη βλάβην φέρει. 

Sophocles Trag., Electra
Line 1041


{HL.} TWi SWi DIKAIWi DHT' EPISPESQAI ME DEI;
{CR.} hOTAN GAR EU FRONHiS, TOQ' hHGHSHi SU NWiN.
{HL.} H DEINON EU LEGOUSAN EXAMARTANEIN.
{CR.} EIRHKAS ORQWS hWi SU PROSKEISAI KAKWi.
{HL.} TI D'; OU DOKW SOI TAUTA SUN DIKHi LEGEIN;
{CR.} ALL' ESTIN ENQA CH) DIKH BLABHN FEREI. 

 LS intermediate  


3.  δοκῶ μοι >>DOKW MOI<< in Att., just like  δοκεῖ μοι >>DOKEI MOI<<, as Lat. videor mihi for videtur mihi, I seem to myself, methinks,  c. inf., Hdt., etc.; also, I am determined, resolved,  c. inf., Ar. 
		4. c. inf., also, to seem  or pretend  to be doing, Lat. simulo,  or with a negat. to seem  or pretend  not to be doing, Lat. dissimulo;   ἤκουσά του λέγοντος, οὐ δοκῶν κλύειν >>HKOUSA TOU LEGONTOS, OU DOKWN KLUEIN<< Eur. 
	II >>II<<. = videor, to seem  to one,  δοκέεις δέ μοι οὐκ ἀπινύσσειν >>DOKEEIS DE MOI OUK APINUSSEIN<< Od., etc. 
		2. absol. to seem,  as opp. to reality,   οὐ δοκεῖν, ἀλλ’ εἶναι θέλει >>OU DOKEIN, ALL' EINAI QELEI<< Aesch. 
		3. to seem good,  Lat. placere,   εἰ δοκεῖ σοι ταῦτα >>EI DOKEI SOI TAUTA<< Id. 
		4. impers.,  δοκεῖμοι >>DOKEIMOI<< much in the same sense as  δοκῶ μοι >>DOKW MOI<< (supr. 1. 3), it seems to me, meseems, methinks,   ὥς μοι δοκεῖ εἶναι ἄριστα >>hWS MOI DOKEI EINAI ARISTA<< Il., etc.:—in decrees and the like,  ἔδοξε τῇ βουλῇ >>EDOXE THi BOULHi<<, placuit senatui,  Ar., Thuc., etc.;  τὸ δόξαν >>TO DOXAN<< the decree,  Hdt.;  τὰ δόξαντα >>TA DOXANTA<< Soph.;  παρὰ τὸ δοκοῦν ἡμῖν >>PARA TO DOKOUN hHMIN<< Thuc.:—so in Pass.,  δέδοκται >>DEDOKTAI<<, Lat. visum est,  Hdt., Trag., etc. 
			b. acc. absol.  δόξαν >>DOXAN<<, when it was decreed  or resolved,   δόξαν αὐτοῖς ὥστε διαναυμαχεῖν >>DOXAN AUTOIS hWSTE DIANAUMACEIN<< (i.e.  ὅτε ἔδοξεν αὐτοῖς >>hOTE EDOXEN AUTOIS<<) Thuc.; so,  δεδογμένον αὐτοῖς >>DEDOGMENON AUTOIS<< Id. 



Elizabeth Kline
 






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