[B-Greek] TI hUMIN DOKEI? (was 2 Peter 1:20 and context
Elizabeth Kline
kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Fri May 28 17:05:49 EDT 2010
On May 28, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Kimmo Huovila wrote:
> TI hUMIN DOKEI?
The idiom (quote above) appears in a different variant OU DOKW SOI found 32 places in TLG (but not in NT) or is this a different idiom.
Sophocles Trag., Electra
Line 1041
{ΗΛ.} Τῷ σῷ δικαίῳ δῆτ' ἐπισπέσθαι με δεῖ;
{ΧΡ.} Ὅταν γὰρ εὖ φρονῇς, τόθ' ἡγήσῃ σὺ νῷν.
{ΗΛ.} Ἦ δεινὸν εὖ λέγουσαν ἐξαμαρτάνειν.
{ΧΡ.} Εἴρηκας ὀρθῶς ᾧ σὺ πρόσκεισαι κακῷ.
{ΗΛ.} Τί δ'; οὐ δοκῶ σοι ταῦτα σὺν δίκῃ λέγειν;
{ΧΡ.} Ἀλλ' ἔστιν ἔνθα χἠ δίκη βλάβην φέρει.
Sophocles Trag., Electra
Line 1041
{HL.} TWi SWi DIKAIWi DHT' EPISPESQAI ME DEI;
{CR.} hOTAN GAR EU FRONHiS, TOQ' hHGHSHi SU NWiN.
{HL.} H DEINON EU LEGOUSAN EXAMARTANEIN.
{CR.} EIRHKAS ORQWS hWi SU PROSKEISAI KAKWi.
{HL.} TI D'; OU DOKW SOI TAUTA SUN DIKHi LEGEIN;
{CR.} ALL' ESTIN ENQA CH) DIKH BLABHN FEREI.
LS intermediate
3. δοκῶ μοι >>DOKW MOI<< in Att., just like δοκεῖ μοι >>DOKEI MOI<<, as Lat. videor mihi for videtur mihi, I seem to myself, methinks, c. inf., Hdt., etc.; also, I am determined, resolved, c. inf., Ar.
4. c. inf., also, to seem or pretend to be doing, Lat. simulo, or with a negat. to seem or pretend not to be doing, Lat. dissimulo; ἤκουσά του λέγοντος, οὐ δοκῶν κλύειν >>HKOUSA TOU LEGONTOS, OU DOKWN KLUEIN<< Eur.
II >>II<<. = videor, to seem to one, δοκέεις δέ μοι οὐκ ἀπινύσσειν >>DOKEEIS DE MOI OUK APINUSSEIN<< Od., etc.
2. absol. to seem, as opp. to reality, οὐ δοκεῖν, ἀλλ’ εἶναι θέλει >>OU DOKEIN, ALL' EINAI QELEI<< Aesch.
3. to seem good, Lat. placere, εἰ δοκεῖ σοι ταῦτα >>EI DOKEI SOI TAUTA<< Id.
4. impers., δοκεῖμοι >>DOKEIMOI<< much in the same sense as δοκῶ μοι >>DOKW MOI<< (supr. 1. 3), it seems to me, meseems, methinks, ὥς μοι δοκεῖ εἶναι ἄριστα >>hWS MOI DOKEI EINAI ARISTA<< Il., etc.:—in decrees and the like, ἔδοξε τῇ βουλῇ >>EDOXE THi BOULHi<<, placuit senatui, Ar., Thuc., etc.; τὸ δόξαν >>TO DOXAN<< the decree, Hdt.; τὰ δόξαντα >>TA DOXANTA<< Soph.; παρὰ τὸ δοκοῦν ἡμῖν >>PARA TO DOKOUN hHMIN<< Thuc.:—so in Pass., δέδοκται >>DEDOKTAI<<, Lat. visum est, Hdt., Trag., etc.
b. acc. absol. δόξαν >>DOXAN<<, when it was decreed or resolved, δόξαν αὐτοῖς ὥστε διαναυμαχεῖν >>DOXAN AUTOIS hWSTE DIANAUMACEIN<< (i.e. ὅτε ἔδοξεν αὐτοῖς >>hOTE EDOXEN AUTOIS<<) Thuc.; so, δεδογμένον αὐτοῖς >>DEDOGMENON AUTOIS<< Id.
Elizabeth Kline
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