[B-Greek] 2 Peter 1:20 and context

Jeffrey B Gibson jgibson000 at comcast.net
Sat May 29 19:46:46 EDT 2010


On 5/29/2010 7:41 AM, Mark Lightman wrote:
> Kimmo egrapse:
>
> <TI hUMIN DOKEI?>
>
> χαιρε ω Κιμμω
>
> It seems to me that if Carl is correct that this is a predicate genitive and if
> Robertson is correct that this is an ablative of source and if Douay-Rheims is correct
> to render this "no prophecy of scripture is made BY private interpretation,"
> then in this sentence, EPILUSIS could have been in the nominative or the genitive
> or the dative without affecting the fundamental meaning.  Which leads me to conclude
> that this is a Genitive Filling In For the Accusative of Respect.
>
> I once used the word EPILUSIS in composing a song.  See if you can Name that Tune:
>
> οντος μου εν αποριᾳ
> Μητηρ Μαρια ερχεται
> λαλων τα σοφια
> γενοιτο.
> γενοιτο γενοιτο γενοιτο γενοιτο
> εσται επιλυσις
> γενοιτο
>    
Let It Be?

Jeffrey
> ONTOS MOU EN APORIAi
> MHTHP MARIA ERCETAI
> LALWN TA SOFIA
> GENOITO
> GENOITO GENOITO GENOITO GENOITO
> ESTAI EPILUSIS
> GENOITO
>
>
>
>   Mark Light(FWS)man(FWS)
>
>
>
> FWSFOROS MARKOS
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kimmo Huovila<kimmo.huovila at kolumbus.fi>
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 2:36:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2 Peter 1:20 and context
>
> Could the whole thought be paraphrased as "no prophesy is ever a matter of the
> prophet's personal resolution/interpretation (of God's will/message), but they
> spoke words from God as they are being carried along (inspired) by the Holy
> Spirit"? In other words, never is a prophesy the result of the prophets
> interpretation but rather it is given by inspiration. This is an attempt to
> combine Iver's point about the relationship between the two verses and Carl's
> point about the lack of preposition.
>
> TI hUMIN DOKEI?
>
> Kimmo Huovila
>
> On torstai 27 toukokuu 2010, Carl Conrad wrote:
>    
>> I really think that GINETAI is more a copula than a verb of generation, and
>>      
> I
>    
>> think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS must be a predicate genitive: "isn't ever a
>> matter of personal resolution/interpretation." I don't think there's any
>>      
> parallel
>    
>> of GINETAI with FERW and LALEW and I don't think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS
>> as a genitive phrase without a preposition can have an instrumental sense. I
>>      
> just
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>> don't think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS OU GINETAI is at all parallel to hUPO
>> PNEUMATOS hAGIOU FEROMENOI ELALHSAN APO QEOU ANQRWPOI.
>>      
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