[B-Greek] Justin and objective genitives

Barry H. nebarry at verizon.net
Tue Mar 8 06:36:11 EST 2011


 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Ehrman, Bart D" <behrman at email.unc.edu>
 To: "Michael Aubrey" <mga318 at yahoo.com>; "Carl Conrad" <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
 Cc: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Justin and objective genitives


> Mike and Carl,
>
>     Thanks for this – I don’t seem to have received Carl’s reply, and so 
> have it only in  Mike’s affirmation of it.
>
>     Could I ask for a further explanation?  I’m not disinclined to agree 
> in principle, but I don’t fully understand.  You seem to be saying (at 
> least at the end) that grammar cannot be used to decide the meaning of the 
> two words in relation to one another.  But that’s what grammar *does*, isn’t 
> it?  I’m not too worried about the precise labels (“objective genitive” 
> “subjective genitive” “genitive of origin” and so on); my question is 
> really whether the phrase “Memoir + genitive” can mean “Memoir that is 
> about X” as opposed to, say, “Memoir that is written by X” or “Memoir that 
> is owned by X” etc.   And if it can mean “memoir that is about X” what 
> analogies do we have for the usage, apart from instances where the noun is 
> an “active” term of some kind?

 If I could, I believe that the consensus on this list so far (and of the
 online materials releated to the subject), is that the context is
 insufficiently clear to determine the antecedent of  αὐτοῦ, AUTOU.  To me,
 it seems natural to take the pronoun as referring to Peter, but that's
 rather subjective.  If the context were sufficiently clear, I think this
 conversation wouldn't be happening...  :)

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