[B-Greek] AKOUW with gen and acc (was AUTOU in Jo 9:6 - )
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 19 13:41:47 EDT 2011
My apologies. It didn't occur to me that the font would be changed from SPIonic
to whatever. Of course, the result is that it doesn't appear as Greek even if
the recipient has SPIonic on his computer.
george
gfsomsel
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From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
To: Beata Urbanek <beata.urbanek at op.pl>; Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>; Vasile
Stancu <stancu.c.vasile at gmail.com>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 10:25:55 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] AKOUW with gen and acc (was AUTOU in Jo 9:6 - )
This article illustrates ONE of the reasons that legacy fonts should no longer
be used. The words a0ntakou/w, diakou/w, ei0sakou/w, e0nakou/w, e0pakou/w,
parakou/w, and u9pakou/w appear with spaces in the middle of words whenever any
accent or breathing precedes. They should be ἁντακούω, διακούω, εἰσακούω,
ἐνακούω, ἐπακούω, παρακούω and ὑπακούω. I don't transliterate since it
might be meaningless to anyone not using unicode.
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: Beata Urbanek <beata.urbanek at op.pl>
To: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>; Vasile Stancu <stancu.c.vasile at gmail.com>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 10:15:59 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] AKOUW with gen and acc (was AUTOU in Jo 9:6 - )
I came across this: [Paul Danove, A Comparison of the Usage of AKOUW and AKOUW-
compounds in theSeptuagint and New Testament, Filología Neotestamentaria 14
(2001) 65-86]
These results permit a reconsideration of traditional distributional rules that
attempt to explain the presence of genitive and accusative case noun phrase
objects. Such rules, generally rendered in three parts, cite classical rules and
then describe divergences in LXX and NT usage:
1. that of or about which one hears is in the accusative,
2. the person speaking appears in the genitive,
3. the sound which one hears is in the genitive, unless it is a speech,
LOGOS, which may be in either the genitive or the accusative.
Attempts to adapt these rules for the study of the LXX and NT are of
limited use.
At the end he puts his reformulated rules.
The article is here
http://www.bsw.org/Filologia-Neotestamentaria/Vol-14-2001/A-Comparison-Of-The-Usage-Of-Akouw-And-Akouw-Compounds-In-The-Septuagint-And-New-Testament/416/
Beata Urbanek
Vasile Stancu wrote:
>
>> What about this (im)possibility: AUTOU works with EPEXRISEN as it
>> would with HKOUSEN, for example.
Carl W. Conrad
> But AKOUW takes an accusative of the thing heard and a genitive of the
> person heard: HKOUSA AUTOU THN FWNHN.
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