[B-Greek] Changing Pronunciation
Vasile Stancu
stancu.c.vasile at gmail.com
Sun Mar 20 05:52:59 EDT 2011
I think one possible reference, besides wording it, could be the
recorded sound itself, as anyone can hear if the opportunity is there
to be close enough to a flock of sheep. See this link, for instance:
http://www.junglewalk.com/popuptop.asp?type=a&AnimalAudioID=5654
Vasile Stancu
2011/3/14 Benjamin Pehrson <benjamin_pehrson at sil.org>:
> One of the most fun and interesting things to do in any language learning
> situation is to explore onomatopoeia and the sounds that people make for
> different things. It's fun because different languages/cultures use
> different sounds to represent the same thing. So, it seems to me that
> Plato's reference to Eta sounding like a lamb bleating could just as well
> represent an "aaaay" sound as a "baaaa" sound. I cannot comment on Buth's
> pronunciation system.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Carl Conrad
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:24 PM
> To: Eric S. Weiss
> Cc: b-greek
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Changing Pronunciation
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Eric S. Weiss wrote:
>
>> Randall Buth's Website is now http://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/
>>
>> Buth's Phonemic Koinê differs from Modern Greek in only 3 ways, IIRC:
>> H êta is pronounced as "ay" instead of "ee" (Modern)
>> U upsilon is pronounced as French u instead of "ee" (Modern)
>> OI omicron-iota is pronounced as French u instead of "ee" (Modern)
>
> I don't think the above is correct for H êta. "ay" is Erasmian, a
> long closed "e." In Buth's system Eta is an long open "e" --
> I'd make it more akin to the "a" in American English "mad" or "bad." Plato
> at
> some point says that the Eta sounds like a lamb bleating: think "baaaa"
>
>> I made the change several years ago, and haven't looked back. Granted,
>> the distinct vowel and diphthong sounds and rough breathing in Erasmian
>> make vocabulary differentiation and acquisition somewhat easier, but
>> Phonetic Koinê and/or Modern Greek to me are more euphonious and
>> flow more smoothly when listening or reading aloud.
>>
>> I have the Living Koinê materials and am using them to prepare for an
> 8-day
>> fluency workshop I'm attending this summer under Dr. Buth's program.
>
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
>
>
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