[B-Greek] Mt 6:15 AFHTE vs. AFIETE
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 24 11:17:09 EDT 2011
Perhaps you don't understand English any more than you understand Greek. "If
you don't forgive men, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions."
george
gfsomsel
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From: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 8:09:27 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Mt 6:15 AFHTE vs. AFIETE
Superficially so.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:14 AM, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
> It must be understood -- wait for it. IN ITS CONTEXT. The context is that
> of teaching the disciples (and therefore the Church) to pray:
>
>
> hOUTWS OUN PROSEUXESQE hUMEIS:
> ...
> KAI AFES hHMIN TA OFELHMATA hHMWN,
> hWS KAI hHMEIS AFHKAMEN TOIS OFEILETAIS hHMWN.
>
> Thus the context is that of whenever they pray indicating a general
> condition. "If you do not forgive, neither will your father ..."
>
> george
Superifically so. However, ...
If I am correct, what I get from the text in question is that our
forgiving is to be consequent of God's forgiveness. In such context,
if we say that God forgives us when we forgive others and He will not
if we don't, we do have not a small problem to solve. It makes God's
forgiveness to be very conditional to our forgiveness.
Oun Kwon.
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