From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Sun Jun 18 2000 - 06:56:41 EDT
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<div>At 12:41 AM -0700 6/18/00, Daniel E. Barnes wrote:</div>
<div>>my question concerns a passage in Jewish Antiquties 20.234
which says:<br>
><br>
>LAMBANEI D' hOUTOS AUTOS KAI hOI EGGONOI AUTOU PENTEKAIDEKA
SUNAPANTES MEXRI<br>
>BASILEWS ANTIOXOU TOU EUPATROS...<br>
><br>
>He (i.e. Joshua b. Jehozadak) and his decendants, fifteen in all,
held the<br>
>office until the reign of Antiochus Eupator…<br>
>-Josephus, Jewish Antiquitites, 20.234 (LCL)<br>
><br>
>I can see from listings of High Priests of the Second-Temple
period that<br>
>there were 15 High Priests from Joshua b. Jehozadak to Menelaus
b. Simon II<br>
>(whom was deposed by Antiochus). Yet the way the English is for
both the<br>
>Loeb edition of Josephus and the Wilston translation makes it
sounds as if<br>
>the reference "fifteen in all" refers to his
decendants, which would make 16<br>
>including Joshua b. Jehozadak. (Perhaps it is my misunderstanding
the<br>
>English.) My question is, is the Greek more precise than the
English? If so,<br>
>what might be a better way to render this passage so as to bring
this out?<br>
></div>
<div>>Thanks for any help in this matter,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Surely the AUTOS attached to hOUTOS sets "He HIMSELF apart
from hOI EGGONOI AUTOU, doesn't it? I would understand PENTEKAIDEKA
SUNAPANTES as appositional ONLY to hOI EGGONOI AUTOU. Moreover the
verb LAMBANEI is singular, which suggests that KAI hOI EGGONOI AUTOU
PENTEKAIDEKA SUNAPANTES is an appended subject. "He himself--and
his kinsmen numbering fifteen altogether--continually held (the
office) until the kingship of Antiochus Eupator."</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Whiston's translation at Perseus seems to me to be making this
distinction: "<font color="#000000">Now he and his posterity,
who were in all fifteen, until king</font><font color="#0000FF"><u>
Antiochus</u></font><font color="#000000"> Eupator,</font>
..."</div>
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