From: Brian Swedburg (brian@discoveryhills.org)
Date: Thu Nov 09 2000 - 14:12:43 EST
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Greetings,
<br> <i>The question originally adressed was EAN TIS
AGAPAi TON KOSMON, OUK ESTIN hH AGAPH TOU PATROS EN AUTWi.</i><i></i>
<p><i>Does this mean that the one who loves the world has no love for the
Father,</i>
<br><i>or that the Father's love is not in him/her?</i><i></i>
<p>My perspective places this in the context of the imperative this brief
section is fleshing out. "MH AGAPATE TON KOSMON". As I have mentioned
before, my understanding of the structure of this epistle is based upon
the spans which are built upon the imperatives and exhortations.
In the context of this command not to love the world, I understand the
writer to then be fleshing out what it means to love the world ( i.e. pursuit
it's desires)and what it means to love the Father (i.e. pursuit His will).
Therefore, while the question of objective vs. subbjective genitive may
be a toss up in Johannine literature, in this context, I believe the rhetoric
(by which I mean the writers strategy) strongly favors the objective genitive.
<br> "Will you love God, pursueing His will?, or will
you love the world, pursueing it's desires?"
<p>Thanks
<br>Student
<br>Brian P. Swedburg
<p>Steven Sheeley wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Actually, you could argue for either (or both, in
true Johannine fashion)
<br>meanings not just contextually, but also through syntactical rules.
The
<br>question would hinge on one's interpretation of TOU PATROS; is it an
<br>objective or subjective genitive?
<p>On another level, in the Johannine context, one should also be careful
not
<br>to exclude the possibility that hH AGAPH TOU PATROS is not a circulocution
<br>for Jesus himself, so that the verse would imply that anyone who loves
the
<br>world and its "things" does not have Jesus in him/her.
<p>Steven Sheeley
<br>Associate Professor of Religion
<br>Associate Dean of the College
<br>Shorter College
<p>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: One of the McKays [<a href="mailto:musicke@ozemail.com.au">mailto:musicke@ozemail.com.au</a>]
<br>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:31 AM
<br>To: Biblical Greek
<br>Subject: [b-greek] 1 John 2:15
<p>EAN TIS AGAPAi TON KOSMON, OUK ESTIN hH AGAPH TOU PATROS EN AUTWi.
<p>Does this mean that the one who loves the world has no love for the
Father,
<br>or that the Father's love is not in him/her?
<p>Contextually, I think I could argue for both!
<br>David McKay
<br>musicke@ozemail.com.au
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