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Subject: Re: [b-greek] Re: Aorist never codes an open situation? - to Kimmo
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In a message dated 12/17/2000 8:32:06 PM Mountain Standard Time,
emory2oo2@hotmail.com writes:
> Moon:
>
> You said:
>
> -----
> >I understand your claim. "to love" itself is unbound like uncountable
> >nouns. But uncountable nouns can be made countable as in "two coffees,
> >please". Similarly verbs that are lexically open-ended can be made bound
> >by the aorist coding. It seems to be a nice and systmetic explanation of
> >aorist aspect.
> ------
>
> Since this is to Kimmo, I thought I would ask some Verbal Aspect questions.
>
> Correct my thinking Kimmo:
>
> Moon has, to some extent, hit on the weakness of Porter's Verbal Aspect
> system, namely, LEXICAL ASPECT. The Aorist FORM encodes GRAMMATICAL
ASPECT,
> but not LEXICAL ASPECT. Hence, you have a more complex issue here than
just
> the Aorist aspect (Perfective Aspect).
Just to clarify, none of this discussion has really articulated Porter's view
on the aspect of the Aorist. He would say that the use of the aorist is
making the most general statement possible without elaboration--God loved the
world--without any information coded in the verb about when it started or
stopped, or whether it was punctilliar or repeated, or whether it could be
counted or not.
Cindy Westfall
PhD Student, Roehampton
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