From: Randall Buth (ButhFam@compuserve.com)
Date: Wed Dec 27 2000 - 13:25:11 EST
CAIRETE,  I would like feedback on choosing well-formed Greek 
for beginning students of Koine. 
I'll start with a recent anecdote from the list:
egrapsen clay
>
>My favorite grammar is now Accordance. I like to roast my own. <
Nice coffee. 
It could use some beans from more 1st century texts, though. Does it search
TLG?
Now to questions. They have the wonderful quality of leaving a sense of
uncertainty, 
despite their simplicity and having worked with the language thirty years
in the other direction.
Are you happy with the following:
1.
'he is pouring water into a cup'
       EIS POTHRION  EGCUNNEI   UDWR 
(this verb EN-CEIN  doesn't occur in NT and is in a Koine form with
-CUNNEI)
2.
'the cup of water' (referring to a cup of water currently full)
     TO POTHRION TOU UDATOS  
(the second article seems necessary but I have no exact examples)
3. 
'she is tired'   AUTH   EKLUOMENH   ESTIN
(a bit strong, 'giving out'/'fainting'/=exhausted but occurs in NT) 
4. 
kids (10-15years old) O PAIS, H PAIS and NEANISKOS, KORASION 
5.
'full, satisfied' after eating=  EMPEPLHSTAI,   EMPEPLHSMENOI  EISIN 
(a close call,  but perfect CORTASMENOS doesn't occur in NT)
6. 'is riding an animal'   ELAUVEI   IPPON/ONON//arma/k.t.l.
(literally 'drives' an animal, chosen for cars in modern) 
7.
'seated on an animal' EPIBEBHTWS  EPI  IPPON/k.t.l. 
(this EPIBAINEIN is close to 'riding' 
but would seem to be used in conjunction with a verb of movement)
If any have resources, citations or advice on such common vocabulary 
I would be much obliged. 
And if you'd like to chew on more, I can send them your way. 
Think of this as a follow up to what happens when people actually want to
communicate with this language. It's harder than one might think at first
glance, but I think it is doable and certainly worth the effort.
EUCARISTW UMIN
Randall Buth
Chair, Hebrew Language
Jerusalem University College
Buth@jerusalemschool.org
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