[b-greek] Is Mk 14:62 a implied threat

From: c stirling bartholomew (cc.constantine@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Wed Jun 06 2001 - 15:04:38 EDT


This is a branch from the Agency&Passive, Mk 14:57-59 False testimony
thread, but really a totally new question.

When Jesus responds to hO ARCIERUS question in MK 14:62, does the answer of
Jesus contain an implied threat? Is there implicit in the words:

. . . KAI OYESQE TON hUION TOU ANQRWPOU
EK DEZIWN KAQYMENON THS DUNAMEWS
KAI ERCOMENON META TWN VEFELWN TOU OURANOU.

a suggestion that TON hUION TOU ANQRWPOU might in fact be the unspecified
AGENT of Jesus predictions of judgement and destruction concerning Jerusalem
and the Temple?

In other words, was there some legitimate basis for the false witness
recorded in Mk 14:57-59, that Jesus had threatened to destroy the temple?
When Jesus identifies himself in this manner as

TON hUION TOU ANQRWPOU
EK DEZIWN KAQYMENON THS DUNAMEWS
KAI ERCOMENON META TWN VEFELWN TOU OURANOU

is the notion of "an AGENT participating in eschatological wrath/judgement"
part of the semantic significance of this constituent (the whole quote)?

Is the reaction of the hO ARCIERUS only based on WHO Jesus claims to be or
is he perhaps also reacting to what Jesus claims he will do? I think that
the question WHO clearly has the prominat place here but perhaps there is
more going on here than just a discussion about WHO Jesus is claiming to be.

This question can be addressed most fruitfully be exploring what the shared
meaning (Jesus and hO ARCIERUS) of the quoted constituent might have been.
Did hO ARCIERUS have a preunderstanding that would lead him to take this
statement as a threat of coming wrath/judgement with Jesus as the AGENT?

Clay

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Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062

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