From: Carlton Winbery (winberyc@popalex1.linknet.net)
Date: Tue Jul 22 1997 - 09:09:56 EDT
Tom Launder wrote;
>I have been having fun trying to get a good handle on Mark 9:1 and
>thought I would ask some questions. . .
>
>KAI ELEGEN AUTOIS, AMHN LEGW hUMIN hOTI EISIN TINES hWDE TWN hESTHKOTWN
>hOITINES OU MH GEUSWNTI QANATOU hEWS AN IDWSIN THN BASILEIAN TOU QEOU
>ELHLUQUIAN EN DUNAMEI.
>
>Questions:
>
>1. Does TWN hESTHKOTWN modify TINES?  If it does, is this a partitive
>genitive?
Yes, the gen. is partitive (some say ablative) and TINES is the part of the
whole which is modified by the genitive.
>2. Is this diagram correct?
No,  TINES is the subject.  Only in English do we say "There are some
standing here who . . ."  In Greek they say "Some of those standing here
are those who . . ."  Granted, there is little difference in meaning, but
diagraming should reflect the structure of the language being diagramed.
>
>______|___EISIN___\___TINES___
>      |  hWDE           |    /hESTHKOTWN
>                 __ _ _ |       TWN
>                |
>        ___hOITINES__|__GEUSWNTAI__/__QANATOU__
>                     |     /  OU MH
>                          /
>                         / hEWS AN
>                        /
>                 ____|___IDWSIN___|__BASILEAIN__
>                     |              THN |    / QEOU
>                                        |         TOU
>                                        |___ELHLUQUIAN__
>                                                /
>                                               /___EN DUNAMEI__
>
Grace,
Carlton Winbery
LA College
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