From: RHutchin@aol.com
Date: Wed Apr 05 2000 - 11:21:34 EDT
>RH had asked--
I am still working on Matthew 24:34 and have some more questions. If I get
overbearing, let me know.
>
>Matthew 24:34 reads:
>
>AMHN LEGW hUMIN hOTI OU MH PARELQHi hH GENEA hAUTH hEWS AN PANTA TAUTA
>GENHTAI.
>
>Questions.
>
>2. Would a person ever say, hAUTH hH GENEA. I did not find the phrase in
>the NT. Does the word order make a difference in the location of hAUTH in
>the context presented by this verse?
Dr. Conrad responded--
21 instances in the GNT: Matt. 12:45, Matt. 23:36, Matt. 24:34, Mark 8:1,2
Mark 8:38, Mark 13:30, Luke 7:31, Luke 11:29,30, 31. 32, Luke 11:50, Luke
16:8, Luke 17:25, Luke 21:32,Acts 2:40, Heb. 3:10. "This generation" is in
fact a very common phrase in the GNT and, as I recall (I found it in the
LXX in Psalm 11:8 and 23:6.
The only two possible word-orders are hAUTH hH GENEA and hH GENEA hAUTH;
since hAUTH is a demonstrative, it must take a predicate position with
respect to the article and noun--it can't be attributive.
RH now asks--
That is what I had thought. Now, we have a demonstrative pronoun in the
predicate position pointing us to something. Does it point us to:
1. The immediate audience to whom Jesus is talking (indicating that they
would see PANTA TAUTA);
2. PANTA TAUTA (indicating that whatever group of people, not necessarily
the immediate audience, that witnessed the first of PANTA TAUTA would also
witness the last of it);
3. Same as number two except that it applies to the immediate audience; or
4. The greek does not distinguish one conclusion from the other, so one can
take it any way he/she wants as above or some other interpretation (e.g.,
that it applies to the Jewish people per #2).
>RH also asked--
3. Jesus could (I think) have said, hH AUTH GENEA to get the same point
>across. What idea would a person be able to convey by using hH GENEA hAUTH
>that he might not in using hH AUTH GENEA?
Dr. Conrad responded--
hH AUTH GENEA would mean "the same generation", but if you meant to write,
hH hAUTH GENEA, that would be using hAUTH in attributive position and it
just isn't done.
RH now asks--
I think I confused things. In the above, one could have said hH AUTH GENEA
(indicating that the same generation would see all these things) or hH GENEA
hAUTH (indicating that this generation would do so). In either case, the
conclusion that the reader would draw seems to be the same. Is it? Does
Jesus say, hH GENEA hAUTH, because he wants to make a point that He could no
make if He had said hH AUTH GENEA, or is it a matter of personal preference
with neither term conveying some unique meaning that the other would not?
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