Re: Thinking Like a Scribe Mk 6:46

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Wed Apr 05 2000 - 22:36:12 EDT


At 2:53 PM -0700 4/5/00, clayton stirling bartholomew wrote:
>on 04/05/00 11:25 AM, clayton stirling bartholomew wrote:

That's what the appropriate citation (when it is not OP.CIT. or IBID.)
generally describes as "Bartholomew on Bartholomew."

>> I was thinking
>> that Jesus was sending them ahead UNTIL he released the multitude. I was
>> thinking of hEWS AUTOS APOLUEI TON OXLON as a "Projection" or a condition
>> that had to be met before he would join them again. This might require
>> hEWS AN + subjunctive, however BDF # 383.2 says that AN is sometimes
>> omitted. I am real fuzzy about this which is why I asked the question.
>
>Swete's commentary on Mark led me to Burton #323 (3d ed.1898) which states:
>
>"In classical Greek, especially in tragic poetry, the Subjunctive without AN
>sometimes occurs with hEWS after a verb of present or future time. In the
>New Testament this construction is frequent."
>
>Burton cites: Lk 15:4, Matt. 10:23, Luke 12:59; 22:34.
>
>Lk 15:4 seems to some relevance to my question:
>
>KAI POREUETAI EPI TO APOLWLOS hEWS hEURHi AUTO
>
>
>
>--
>Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
>Three Tree Point
>P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062
>
>After Word:
>
>All this citing of BDF, Swete, and Burton no doubt runs the risk of calling
>down the wrath of the "New Grammarians" those disciples of the empirical
>evidence riding fearlessly forward on "the wave of the future*" following
>their Leader about whom it has been said in another place and in another
>time:
>
>'He is a prodigy. He is an
>emissary of pity and science and progress,
>an exceptional and gifted creature -- Something like an
>emissary of light, something like a lower sort of apostle
>of the new gang -- the gang of virtue. **
>
>*Ann Morrow Lindbergh
>**Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness

Gosh, I have been known to cite some of those guys myself: perilous, I see.

Shucks, Clay, you wear your loathings on your sleeve--we can't even see
your sleeve, but we recognize your loathings, have we but read two or three
of your posts, in fact, we know them well. And as for your lovely citation
from my namesake, it sounds to me a lot more like the herd of swine going
after Legion into the Sea of Galilee (from the t'other shore, of course).

-- 

Carl W. Conrad Department of Classics/Washington University One Brookings Drive/St. Louis, MO, USA 63130/(314) 935-4018 Home: 7222 Colgate Ave./St. Louis, MO 63130/(314) 726-5649 cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/

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