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Re: [compost_tea] Re: no-till farming
Somewhere on the web I read of  research that reported foliar fertilizer was 8 to 12 times more efficient that soil - root fertilizers.
 
If you use Dr E's example of  5% of the normal fertiizers are required when compost and ACT are used then multiply that by  say 6 time the efficiency just math says foliar would need 1% of the fertilizers normally suggested by Monsanto etc..  
 
Please don't plant a 1000 acres based on tha SWAG.  But you might do well to carry on the research yourself, trying to approach thot as a goal but proving it on small test areas of your larger fields.   Then  your report to us - OK ?  Bob 
dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- How about adding  micros(nutrients) with foliar ACT if necessary 
and macros by injection? I'm  thinking the first year the ACT will 
have to be foliar fed many times. Then I'll need an injector which 
doesn't upset soil foodweb.   Dennis
In compost_tea@yahoogroups.com, "J Peter Young" <peter@b...> wrote:
> ACT alone contain very, very little nutrients. If you add enough to 
make a
> difference - then it's fertilizer.
>  
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Norsen [mailto:bnbrew@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: compost_tea@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [compost_tea] no-till farming
> 
> 
> Depends, Peter, on what is included in the ACT. ACT might have to 
carry more
> than the usua
 l 
 load of nutrients.  Then the ACT will further 'plow 
back'
> the  waste trash on the field to plant available nutrients.  
Compost would
> certainly be useful if possible. 
> 
> J Peter Young <peter@b...> wrote: 
> 
> And the ACT will not replace the nutrients removed from the field 
with the
> corn. You're going to have to put some compost down as well.
>  
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Norsen [mailto:bnbrew@y...] 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:21 PM
> To: compost_tea@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [compost_tea] no-till farming
> 
> 
> You can find out.  As soon as you harvest this fall, select an 
average part
> of a field.    
> Soil drench a couple times a special acre or so.  more in the 
spring and
> with planting.  Again as the corn starts to
 grow.  See what 
happens.  If you
> start in the spring it will be too late.  It takes some time for the
> microbes to take over the job again that they once did before you 
started
> doing it for them.   Probably need far more than 20 G/A  to make the
> re-conversion.back to microbe  farming.    .Of course the little 
guys need
> water to work..    .
> 
> dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> Would it be possible to grow  corn profitably in the midwest using 
no 
> till,ie  no discing/plowing/ripping, no pesticides, no herbicides, 
no 
> added NPK fertilizers while using ACT appropriately(as necessary?)? 
> Assume you have plenty of water.
> 
> 
> I'd expect it grown in rows so it can be harvested mechanically. 
> Dennis
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