From: Robert Norsen (bnbrew@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Jan 26 2003 - 16:36:55 EST
Nice response, John. My ad was long but I hope with useful information. Can I "weave" some answers to your questions into your message, below?
J + K Delvas <greenthumbs@cheqnet.net> wrote:
I would like to thank Bob for being willing to give home enthusiasts
guidance and advice. It is this kind of generosity, and sharing of knowledge
that makes the compostteagroup more then just a means of advertising.
Bob, could you describe in detail the kind of air powered pump system you
use to circulate and aerate the brew? Bob writes You have all seen, at least on TV, the dredging action used around deep sea searches for treasure. They let down a big diameter hose from the mother ship. Air is injected near the bottom of the hose. As air rises it expands and rushes up the hose taking water with it. Under those conditions this is a violent high volume pump. In Bob's brewers this principle is adjusted to give enough agitation and circulation to do a gentle job of aeration, agitation and circulation. The parts are simple, inexpensive, easily assembled for use and disasembled for cleaning. This is of course not the expensive part of the $685 'Bob's' Brewer.
As far as the folks spending nearly $700.00 on a home brewer, please check
out www.aquaticeco.com for your supplies in the future. . They have
everything. The best thing to do is get a hard copy of the Aquatic
Eco-system catalog. It is a lot more user friendly then the on line catalog.
Aquatic Eco-Systems, Inc. is where I purchased my air pump and diffusers. I
SPENT WAY, WAY LESS THEN $685.00 FOR MY SUPPLIES.
Bob again- Yes John, those are nice people and a good source. I get some of my system via that source. And of course the parts cost less than the finished product. The cost is also in a couple years of research with many tests and experiments with recipes, the labor of building, adjusting, changing, tweeking to get better adoption to working conditions as well as better tests, easier to work with and to clean. The 1st model worked. The 9th model worked much better. I pay American labor American wages with state approved Labor and Industries protection for the workmen as well as full health benefits. This may not be the American Way to run business but I believe in it. I think some of the parts do come from China.
This careful development allows gardeners to know their system will work and leaves them time for the rest of gardening or farming. Last I knew that took about as much time as a farmer could find every day. If one is driven to experiment there is infinite room for that in organic farming. Experimenting is such an exciting part of my life I fully support anyone who enjoys the thrill of making it go THEIR way. Was it Frank Sinatra who sang "I did it MY way"? Bob
For compost and such, I think that Ill use some of that fantastic Alaska
humus. Maybe Ill add in some Vermicompost, and Thermal compost for good
diversity. I will try to get some compost, and fungi from the nearby woods
as recommended by a couple of the other members of the list. A high quality
humic acid product and perhaps some kind of kelp product for fungal foods. I
really wanna use that Liquid Fish stuff, but don't want to attract the Coons
and Bears. Are there Bears in Alabama? I thought they all lived up here in the wild NW, I like your search for the best in compost. I suggest that you go to the grocery store and ask for all the stuff they can't sell because it got trimmed or old on the shelves. Add that to the compost with Alaska "mud" and the forest floor stuff, let it all simmer together, heating and turning for some weeks, send for a SFI test and then use the compost. I will send some AH as packing with your system, soon, John. and thanks for your letter, Bob
Happy Brewin,
John
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