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Re: RES: RES: [compost_tea] in-furrow soil insect prevention?



No, Jose, spending less money on damaging stuff won't hurt the economy.  It might free up some money to pay for the research that will help develop what we are learning is better - and maybe some money to educate people who don't yet know about this marvel.  I like to hear your examples.  I think this group needs more examples of farmer successes.  And we need to get literature in the local news media, national news needs to describe this on the evening news.  It is far more important than most of the news being blasted at us daily.    Bob.  

 Jose Luiz M Garcia <gingerjo@terra.com.br> wrote:

Thanks for the answer.

Flat-out statements are always bad. Oppps, here I

am making another flat-out statement.

Anyway, reminds me one the favorite ways Chinese

people used for suicide. Eating  salt. A few table spoons

can kill you. We can?t really say that salt is always bad.

Same for sugar or everything else.

So the quantity of sugar to be added to any soil has to be

decided upon several aspects like soil aeration ( soil porosity ),

soil microbiology, the amount of other nutrients that will be added

along with the sugar, soil tilth ,etc?

As for the statement that ? Compost Tea doesn?t work? ,

time will show those people that they are totally wrong.

In a matter of a few years those people will look ridiculous.

Try to tell to one of my clients that have 3 CT machines and used to

spend almost US$ 10,000.00 a year in agri-chemicals to control

soil borne diseases that compost tea doesn?t work. Today he spends

like US$ 500.00 a year and have the situation under control.

But, hey that is very bad for the economy, right ? If people starts to

spend less money there will be less jobs, etc, etc??

 

Thanks again

 

 

Jose


HI
Jose -

I was on planes all day yesterday. 
Left my hotel in Hilversum, The Netherlands at
7 am Central European times, and got home at 8:45 pm PNW time.  Long dayand of course, here I am, wide-awake at 4 am, because my body so much for my excuse on not gettting back right away to Jose' question.

He asked -
Would  sugar activate bacteria in the soil, thereby increasing cycling and
and retention and consequently reducing nutrient looses ?
Has Dr Elaine seen any data on the utilization of sugar + Chemical or
Organic fertilizers as a way to improve

The folks at the University of Georgia (Cooleman, Hendrix), Michigan State (Robertson), and at Colorado State University (Klein, Wall, Hunt) have shown some interesting  results.  The Tilth lab at Iowa State (problem is that they don't always tie the combination of fertilizer with carbon  back to plant productionOr they are not aware of the anaerobic conditions that excess simple carbon (a more general term for sugar, or maybe other forms of organic results to all conditions everywhere.

When anyone, but especially individuals in the extension service, USDA, and universities make all-inclusive statements like "compost tea doesn't work", you should learn to just exit from that person's presence. E>morning
, but I really want people to understand this.
Compost tea works - but not under all conditions, everywhereYou have to understand what you are doingWhen has rote performance ever been successful for anything

Water is a class=SpellE>amount
f water for rice will kill cactus.  

Someone the other day asked if compost tea could kill plantsWell, defined as it should be defined, no, compost tea will not kill plantsBut if you make compost tank isn't going to work most of the time.  Rare exceptions, because of how they made it, but it isn't compost tea.

Put too much salt in your water, and drinking the water will kill youSo, what kills the have to work on, not on flat-out statements that liquid manure is badBecause it isn't always bad

And the same with sugar, kelp, or ligniteToo much sugar will be really bad because the soil goes anaerobic.> the micrnutrients the plants need, especially if you've leached all the micronutrients from the mineral parts of your soil by poor management.   LigniteOnly useful if you have the biology you need to break it down

Hope this helps -

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