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Dear Devotees,
In this context, members may like to read
the the following two articles by (the late) Stephen Jay Gould,
scientist in Theory of Evolution, appealing for coexistence of the religious and
scientific belief systems:
An extract:
"Since every one of us must reach some decisions
about the rules we will follow in conducting our own lives, and since I trust
that nobody can be entirely indifferent to the workings of the world around us,
all human beings must pay at least rudimentary attention to both magisteria of
religion and science.
The magisteria will not fuse; so each of us must
integrate these distinct components into a coherent view of life. If we succeed,
we gain something truly "more precious than rubies", and dignified by one of the
most beautiful words in any language:
wisdom." (magesteria = authoritative teachings)
Dasan
krishnaswamy m k
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Date: Sat, 16
Apr 2005 19:24:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Badri Veera <rugveera@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:
darwin theory - God
Dear Vaishnavas:
I think it is a
unnecessary controversy that we as Vaishnavas should abstain from. In the United
states, the Christian fundamentalists are opposed to Darwinian evolution due to
the nature of the church-laity relationship. Indic religion is very exploratory
and it should remain an inquisitive no-holds-barred type of inquiry in order to
further human understanding of nature.
The scientific evolution
does not prohibit the existence of God and I do not see any reason to tie the
two together. Further, evolution of species is not a theory in a
conventional sense. It has been rationally demonstrated to be the case through
countless archaelogical and bio-genetic studies.
Additionally,
science claims consciousness is nothing but a bunch of clever computer programs
that have evolved over millions of years. So, the birth and death of species is
nothing but the death of these programs and cells.
hmm. enough of
my spheeel! Also, this forum may not be even be the right place to discuss
this.
Finally, the spiritual quest for understanding God and the
non-emotional purely-rational scientific pusuit of understanding nature are best
kept in seperate compartments.
Regards
Badri
Veeraraghavan
vinod sv <winode_sv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
!!srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha!!
!!srI krishNa parabrahmaNE
namaha!!
!!srImAn nArAyaNa charaNau saraNam prapadyE!!
dear
vaishNavAs,
Unfortunately in the modern society, every one talks
about
science with half knowledge. If you ask an
athiest why do not you care for
God, he responds that
science has already found how different beings
are
developed, God is not responsible for our creation. If
science has
really proved evolution theory, then there
is a rational reason why people do
not believe in
religions. However it is notable that Darwin's
evolutionary
theory is not accepted completely within
the scientific communities itself,
and there are many
basic deficiencies in that theory to be accepted as
a
fact.
To speak about the evolution of life, one should
have
proper understanding of what life is, what birth is,
and what death
is. Unfortunately there is no idea of
any of these terms in the scientic
literature. The
reader of this article can check in www.google.com or
any search
website to find the definition of life. The
author fortells the result of
such a trial, that
science factually doesnot know what life
is.
They(scientists) have some idea of symptoms of life
(like growth,
reproduction,...., but miss the most
essential feature consciousness), but
they do not have
a comprehensive understanding of life as a whole.
Without even knowing what life is, many scientists
claim that they
know how life has evolved. There are
many other flaws in this theory and will
not stand in
the test of time. Many such theories will come and go,
but
the truth of life is best explained in Vedas in a
comprehensive manner.
Unfortunately, the academic
books and half knowledged science teachers
are
teaching darwin theory as a fact rather than a theory.
Please save
your self and your children from false
propaganada. Please donot lose faith
on God based on
some theories of flaws.
dAsOham,
srIperumbUdUru
vEnkaTa vinOd.
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