Is not kaivalyam an illusion, a miarage, according to our sampradayam? Does svAmi dESikan refer to 'kaivalyam' ? Narasimhan Krishnamachari <champakam@yahoo. To com> "andavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" Sent by: <andavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oppiliappan@yahoo "oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" groups.com <oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ramanujamission@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ramanujamission@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 12/04/2007 08:59 "srivaishnavan@xxxxxxxxx" PM <srivaishnavan@xxxxxxxxx>, ramanbil@xxxxxxxxxxx cc Please respond to Oppiliappan@yahoo Subject groups.com [Oppiliappan] Re: tAtparya ratnAvaLi - Submission 44, Slokam 18 Part 1, tiruvAimozhi 1.7, pASuram-s 1.7.1, 1.7.2. SrImate ra'nga rAmAnuja mahA deSikAya namaH. tAtpary aratnAvaLi - Submission 44, Slokam 18 Part 1, tiruvAimozhi 1.7, pASuram 1.7.1, 1.7.2. {.................... text deleted} Â pASuram 1.7.1: piRavit tuyar aRa j~nAnattuL ninRu tuRavic cuDar viLakkam talaip peyvAr aRavinai Azhip paDai andaNanai maRaviyai inRi manattu vaippArE. Even those who want to be just relieved of the sorrow resulting from this birth, and who resort to j~nAna yogam and realize the kaivalya sukham of realizing that the soul is different from the body and thereby get relieved of the false identity between the body and the soul and are saitsified with this Atma sukham only, end up keeping Him in their thoughts for deriving that benefit of kaivalyam. The idea here is that His worship is delightful, no matter whether the person worships Him for the ultimate benefit of attaining Him (of performing eternal kaiânkaryam to Him in SrI vaikunTham), or for just getting relief from the suffering resulting from the false association of the body with the soul and thereby enjoying the full realization of the eternal and unlimited nature of the soul (kaivalya Anandam). Thes latter devotees think of bhagavAn as a person who is like a Cleaner, who can eliminate their sorrow from birth, but do not think of Him as parama bhogyan â the Most Enjoyable. The kaivalyArthI-s get immersed in j~nAna yogam, and do not go beyond that to bhakti yogam â of enjoying Him as the Ultimate benefit to be attained. But bhagavAnâs dharmam is that He will attract the minds of all who seek Him for any benefit. svAmi deSikan captures the essence of this pASuram through the words âsat-citta Akarsha hetohâ â He who does not distinguish between paramaikAntin-s and a-paramaikAntin-s, and attracts the minds of both â âpiRavit tuyar aRa j~nAnattuL ninRu turavic cuDar viLakkam talaip peyvAr maRaviyai inRi manattu vaippArEâ. The term âsatâ in svAmi deSikanâs words should be taken to refer to jIvAtmA-s. {.................. text deleted} -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan (To be continued) . (Embedded image moved to file: pic14018.gif) Oppiliappan Koil Varadachari Sadagopan http://www.sadagopan.org Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Oppiliappan-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Oppiliappan-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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