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srimathey ramanujaya namaha!
adiyen ramanuja dasaha!

Jai Srimannarayana Dear Sri Sadagopan Swami,

Just saw your comments on the email that you sent to all the discussion groups. 
I think the intent and the content of the response that appeared in 
jetusa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx seems to have been "miss-understood".

Here is the summary of what I grasped from the response..........

1]]]]
Firstly the response was from Srikaryam Swami.
As you probably know HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji has devotees are 
spread across all the continents and some of them are highly realized and 
knowledgeable acharya purushas.  HH's devotees/ Srikaryam swamis travel around 
and provide us the actual 'in-the-field' opinions.  Some of HH Sri Sri Sri 
Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji's sishyas evolved into Sri Jeeyar Swamiji's themselves 
who provide guidance too from time to time at various places throughout.

2]]]]
I think we all should address as HH Sri Jeeyar Swamis and not just Jeeyars.  It 
seems little odd and slightly disrespectful, especially to outsiders.

3]]]]
The content of the response seems to have slightly misunderstood and there are 
several answers provided to us in such a short paragraph.

4]]]]
Swami Vedanta Desikacharya  always stood guard to Ramanuja Sampradaya. If you 
look at the life history and works of Swami Vedanta Desikacharya including 
geethardha taatparya deepika etc, you would know He protected Swami 
Ramanujacharya's works, commentaries almost laying a fence, paths, tributaries 
and providing microscope like devices where needed. This He did to protect and 
safeguard the Ramanuja Sampradayam. It was never the intent of Swami Vedanta 
Desikacharya to start another Sampradayam of His own. He (Swami Vedanta 
Desikacharya)  always wanted to be associated as a devotee of  swami 
ramanujachayra only. This is evident from His works, actions and His deeds and 
everything that is available today.

5]]]]
There is nothing like Desika sampradaya, Desika siddhantham etc etc etc. There 
is only one 'Ramanuja Sampradayam'

6]]]]
There have been efforts by a few devotees/vested interests to create separate 
tags/nomenclature. A few people are now branding themselves as followers of 
'Desika Sampradaya'.  This I have seen at so many temples.  I met several 
devotees in India, US, UK and Australia. This is how they introduced themselves 
---- "Hello, adiyen is a Iyengar. adiyen and family are followers of Desika 
Sampradayam, and you probably belong to the tennacharya sampradayam"

7]]]]
As can be seen from point 6 above we are creating boundaries around ourselves 
and dividing and seggregating ourselves. This is wrong and should be fixed 
immediately. We should stop branding ourselves as desika sampradayam etc etc. 
We all belong to Ramanuja Samparadayam. We all should be united. We all should 
protect, practise and propagate in a united manner as we all belong to ONE 
sampradayam - The Ramanuja Sampradayam' . 

This is exactly the message I got from the response of Srikaryam Swami as 
called out.

8]]]]
Every effort by each one of us should be made so as to identify ourselves and 
call ourselves followers of Ramauja Sampradayam only and no other confusing 
terms should be used or introduced or brandings done.  Any works are 
commentaries of the great devotees of Swami Ramanujacharya, when being 
explained should be clearly linked back to the Swami Ramanujacharya Himself and 
His works so that it leaves no doubt or leaves no gaps in the mind of people 
listening or people trying to grasp.

9]]]]
As most devotees have an acharya even the 'Yatis' of ramanuja sampradayam 
should not call themselves by other names and make sure they have the Jeeyar 
Swamijis in their title.  As you can see people are already confused and asking 
why are some yatis called something else and why don't they have 'Jeeyar' in 
their title. All the Yatis should do anything and everything to protect and 
unite ramanuja sampradayam and support all such programs underway.


I pray once again to all the devotees to remember that we all belong to the 
ramanuja Sampradayam and we all belong to one community. Let us not create the 
concept of two eyes, one view etc etc. Let us not divide but unite as we all 
belong to ONE sampradayam, ramanuja sampradayam. Let us not try to criticize 
greatest devotees of Swami Ramanujacharya but support each other in these 
testing times when massive Tsunamis, internal and external, are trying to wipe 
out our Vedic Culture.


My dasohams to holy feet of all great devotees. 

adiyen ramanuja dasaha
ramanujadasa





Raghuram Mudumbai RD |  408 480 4004 |  raghu.mudumbai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |




From:  Sadagopan <sgopan@xxxx>
Date:  Wed Feb 2, 2005  11:23 am
Subject:  Re: [SriParakalaMatham] Fwd: [Jeeyar Educational Trust] Digest Number 
1049

 
Dear Sri VenkatEsaa Iyengar :

You have asked for readers" comments regarding
the Q&A excerpts from HH Chinna Jeeyar's corrspondence .

Although the subject matter is controversial and can generate
lot more heat than light , I am responding to your request
because of your many services to unite Sri VaishNava Kulam
thru MahA Sudarsana Yaj~nam & other tireless kaimkaryams .

Here is my input : I am surprised at the answer from
HH the Jeeyar for the question from a devotee .

I totally disagree with the misrepresentation of facts
embedded in the answer .

This answer does not help to unite . It only aggravates the unfortunate
existing divisions . Vadakalai and TennAchArya SamprahdAyam
are the two eyes of Sri VaishNavam . You do not hurt one eye to
nourish the other . Both are vital for proper sight and both are rooted
in Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . To say that "Vadakalai people
want to seperate them (?) from the main stream " is confusing and
distorting
the facts on ground .

Swamy Desikan was a contemproary of Swamy PiLLailOkAcchAr and
was highly respected by the latter . In the battle at Srirangam (Muslim
invasion ) , one died and the other nearly died . Swamy Desikan escaped
death and left for Melkote . During that difficult journey , Swamy Desikan
carried the Commentary of Sri Bhaashyam by Sri Sudarsana Soori with him
and saved that Sri Bhaashyam commentary for posterity . Where will all
Sri VaishNavAs be , if we had lost Srutha PrakAsika at Srirangam ? ,
How can one describe such a Mahaan as not having respect for
Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham ?

Swamy Desikan's life was centered around studying Sri BhAshyam ,
performing KaalakshEpam on it 30 times in his life to his disciples ;
He wrote AdhikaraNa SaarAvaLi to explain it and used Sankalpa SooryOdhayam,
Para Matha Bhangam , Tatthva Muktha KalApam , SarvArTa Siddhi
to defend Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . In the last slOkam of
Sri RanganAtha PaadhukA Sahasram , Swamy Desikan pays His tremendous
tribute to the power of YathirAja Sookthis . Swamy Desikan extolls further
the power of YathirAja Sookthis with 74 SlOkams in YathirAja Sapthathi .
How can he be accused of making his own brand of Desika Darsanam
and downplay Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . He recognized
the main stream of Bhagavath RaamAnuja Siddhantham and immersed in it
all his life and celebrated that BhAgyam thru his Sri Sookthis and
bequeathed
it for all of us as Kula dhanam . By the way , the bhirudhu for Vadakalai
AchAryAs
is " Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntha NirdhAraNa Saarvabhouma " .

It is incorrect hence to say that Vadakalai people follow only VedAntha
Desika and not Bhagavath RaamAnuja . Swamy Desikan exemplified
Bhakthi for AchArya RaamAnuja all his life and he would have considered
himself as a fish out of water , if he had no RaamAnuja Sambhandham .
That goes for all Vadakalai sampradhAyains . Exclusivity of one sampradhAyam
as belonging to Bhagavath RaamAnuja and building the case on
this ricketty foundation is divisive in my humble opinion and
does not serve any useful purpose.

Let us all be proud of belonging to the Sri VaishNava Kulam that
starts with the Dhivya Dampathis down to present day AchAryAs .
There are not too many VaishNavAs in the world anyway and let us
unite them instead of dividing them .

adiyEn requests the revered Jeeyar to help heal these wounds .

RaamAnuja Daasan,
V.Sadagopan (V.SaThakOpan ), New York

----- Original Message -----
From: "srinivasa iyengar. venkatesan." <srisudarsana@xxxx>
To: <parakalamatham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ramanujamission@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:14 PM
Subject: [SriParakalaMatham] Fwd: [Jeeyar Educational Trust] Digest Number
1049


>
> Dear Respected dignitaries!

> Here is the question and Answer given hy HH Chinna
> Jeeyar Swamiji.

> Do you all agree with His answer! if Yes, why and how?
> if NO, why and how?

> I wish to know how you all take it and extent your
> support to promote Sri Ramanuja Siddantha unitedly and
> effectively for the benefit of humanity.

> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha:
> S.Venkatesa Iyengar.
>
> Note: forwarded message attached. Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:35:57 -0000
> From: "Srikaryam"
> Subject: Re: Naming:Jeeyar & Nihamantha Mahadesikan
>
> QUESTION)
> Dear Friends,
> As both thennacharya sampradaayis as well as
> vadakalaiyars accept
> Ramanuja dharsanam, why do we have following
> differences?
> 1. Head of Thennacharya sampradayis name themselves as
> "Jeeyar"
> 2. Head of vadakalaiyars name as "nihamantha
> mahadesikan"
> 3. How is "vedantha mahadesikan" different from
> "nihamantha
> mahadesikan"?
> Can anyone clarify? Thanks, Srinath
>
>


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