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Dear All: FYI.
You might be interested
in this note I sent to the Vaideekam Group
so ably moderated by Sriman Vaasu VadhyAr
of Chennai . He is also the owner of
ahobilam.com web site .

He spends untold hours to help
AasthikAs on Vaideekam matters .

Please join Vaideekam@yahoogroups
if you wish to keep up with Vaideeka Matters .

V.Sadagopan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vaideekam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Vaideekam] Birth & Shastram


 SrI:

 Dear AasthikAs :

 As Sriman NVS Swamy graciously pointed out ,
 (1) theettu is a big subject and (2)SaashthrAs should be
 respected (3) JyOthisham and astrology are
 different .

 I will just record a few thoughts in a not too organized
 manner to share some thoughts.

 Our AchAryaas have recognized
 the presence of those who want to know more
 with questions like Why , How , what for  etc .
 They have also warned us not to get carried away too
 far with such inquiries  . As one who has been exposed to
 both Scientific , rational method thru my six degrees in Science including
 my  Doctoral degree from the World's greastest Engineering
 Educational Institution , Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
 and 26 years work as a Research Scientist at IBM Research Division
 and exposure to Vaideeka ways ( Bruhaspathy family for
 multiple generations originating from PoundarIkapuram ) ,
 I am beginning to understand the reasons for not having answers
 to all the questions by following exclusively one route or the other
 ( Scientific or Saasthraic ) . I will any day trust
 Swamy Desikan and his wonderful insights to conduct our lives
 and AchAryA's anushtAnams rather than sterile science inspite of
 its majesty and sweep .  Let us take the best outputs from
 Science and blend it with our own AchAryAs' upadEsams
 to lead a harmonious life .

 Yukthi Vaadhams have to be used as needed without stumbling ,
 when one rides on these two horses .There may come a time
 to some one , who would rather ride on one horse or the other
 and feel fulfilled .

 One has to put things in perspective and roll time back to when
 it all started . This will put the necessity for AachAram in perspective .
 Our PoorvALs were very compassionate, caring and insightful ones .
 They understood personal hygiene and transmittal of infectious diseases ,
 when there were no antibiotics and emergency wards .By following their
 AchAram and ways laid out by their elders , they lived meaningful and long
 lives ( Veda PrAyam) with purpose and KshEmam at every level
 ( personal, Family , their ancient  Village , City and Raajyam) .

 Now coming back to the scinetific and emotional side of theetu ,
 there  were a  lot of exposure of infection to the Mother , who had
 given birth . Purpeural fever and risk to the Mother and infant's lives
 were real .The new Mother was confined to prasavam quarters for
 ten days to reduce the infection from the relatives ( mingling
 with the general population)  reaching them . The mother's   bodies were
 allowed to rest and recoup with loving care in an emotionally
 stable environment . The realtives were observing the theettu
 in this context .All boils down to the microbes and maintain
 an infection free environment as much as possible . Just compare
 what is happening today .Modern G&O practises has averted
 some of these calamities  waiting to happen . Imagine what happened
 in Europe from a host of devastating diseases in the middle ages and before
 due to crowded society not being able to defend itself thru proper
 quarentines .

 In India ( even few decades ago)  many lived in villages and rarely
 travelled even farther than 25 miles beyond their places of residence .
 Bullock carts had to be assembled for a day long journey to a neighboring
 town . Every body knew everybody else and the marriages were organized
 in tight circles . Even today , there are villages like NaavalpAkkam ,
 where generations of scholars have lived without too much movement
 outside except for travel to dhivya dEsams for Veda PaarAyaNam etc.
 Students come to these scholars and stay in Guru Kulam mode .

 Today with the advances in international travel made possible by Jet
 travel, drug resistant TB , AIDs , Asian Flu and pandemics
 are brought to one's doors very quickly .Our AchAram based on Vaideekam
 roots was the first line of defense against these lurking dangers . Not
 eating  outside ( ParAnnam) was another line of defense . When they say ,
 wash your hands often and scrub yourself well before surgery
 in hospitals and doctors follow those instructions , the common ground
 is the avoidance of infections and their spreadings in the commnity .
 It is well established that the best places to be exposed to infections
 are the hospitals .

 Death Theettu : other than the emotional side of coping with personal loss
 of different degrees of intensity , there were health related questions 
when
 some one passes  away in joint families , which was in vogue in
 those days . Immediate cremation was a necessity and house cleaning
 was needed . No food was consumed in the houses untill
 the immediate rites were taken care off . The (emotional and geographic)
 degrees of  seperation from the deceased ( diseased) also guided the number 
of days
 that one has to observe death theettu . It is very elaborate and sensible .
 The Ahobila Matam Ahnikam book authored by the current Jeeyar
 has a  whole chapter on the Theetus and asouchams . You are
 welcome to refer to it . adiyEn will also cover these items
 in Ahobilavalli e-books .

 One can go on and on ; I will however stop here and wait for
 the well researched data base that Sriman NVS Swamy is planning
 to construct on Theettu in a few months time . Meanwhile , on behalf of all 
of us,
 adiyEn thanks Sriman NVS Swamy for his single handed , tireless
 Kaimkaryams that he does to serve the community of AasthikAs from
 such divergent backgrounds ever so patiently .

 NamO Sri NrusimhAya ,
 Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan
 http://www.sundarasimham.org
 http://www.sadagopan.org
 http://www.ahobilavalli.org

 ***
> Thanks sriman Sadagopachar swamin,
> He well explained both scientifically and Sampradayam base, everything 
> behind the birth and death theetu.
> Swami is supporting me (every one like me) in a critical situation like 
> this. Some can understood the facts behind a >thing, but few (like swamy 
> Sadagopachar) only can explain it to others in good manner. For me it is 
> too dificult to >explain things in English for which I have not practiced 
> so far.
> Again thanks to Swamin.
>
> Yesterday I read a Sloka in "Neethi Sastram"
> "Jyauthisham vyvahaarancha praayaschithhtham chikithsanam|
> vinaa shasthrena yo bruyaaththamaahu: braahma ghaathukam||"
>                                     -- Sloka No: 179
>
> It means Jyothisham, vyavahaaram, praayaschiththam, Chikithsai (vaidhyam) 
> told without shastram will attain the paapam equal to brahma haththi 
> (Killing a brahmnan).
> nvs
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