Respected U.Ve Swami Vasudevan: I have nothing except to say "quite a divine kannan feast" you served to the subscribers of this group. Thank you once more and waiting to hear more of similar comparisons. Adiyaen Nerur S. Rajagopalan. P.S. I presume that some kind of ESP worked. I sent a reply to your first posting pointing out the pasuram "oonidai suvar vaithu". Simultaneously you mentioned this pasuram in this posting. --- "M.G.Vasudevan" <mgv@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear srivaishNava perunthagaiyeer, > > Continuing the topic of guru dhyaanam, now we take > up the comments on anupallavi. Just to recall, first > the anupallavi: > > gaanamE kaNNaa kaNNaa enRa > gaanamE hari naamamE > gaanamE kaivalyamE tharum > gathi unakku enRu nidhi enakku inRu > thudhi aruL thandha guru padha malar adigaLin - > dhyaanamE > > Points or comments: hari naamam - kaNNan enRa gaanam > - 'naavinaal uyaa naan kaNdu koNdEn naaraayaNaa > ennum naamam' says thirumangai aazhvaar - in his > very first padhigam in periya thirumozhi - in all > the 10 verses. > > naavinaal uyya means - by continuously uttering or > singing, I get release. OVS also says same - kaNNaa > kaNNaa enRa gaanamE kaivalyam tharum - uyya said > aazhvaar - kaivalyam tharum says OVS. Both talk > about the detachment and the end result of release > from bondage of this life [piRavi]. > > "May be at a later date, when my physical strength > is down I may not be able to say your name - so now > itself, when I am able to utter your name several > times, I am doing it" says periyaazhvaar - eippu > ennai vandhu naliyumpOdhu angu Edhum naan unnai > ninaikka maattEn appOdhaikku ippOdhE sollivaiththEn > arangaththu aravaNaip paLLiyaanE - 4 -10 -1 in his > thirumozhi. By this aazhvaar now itself saves as > nidhi- wealth, he insures himself for a later day > risk. Like that guru has said this is your savings > or insurance - Krishna gaanamE nidhi unakku - also > the route gathi - road. > > OVS says his naama is the route, asylum, and wealth. > But nammaazhvaar goes up to a great extent - uNNum > soRu thinnum veRRilai ellaam kaNNan - even the > simple food what we eat etc is all kaNNan - just any > thing and every thing is kaNNan. Who said it - guru > - nam aazhvaar - the dhyaanam on that guru's feet is > parama paavanam. > > Now charanam 1: > onbadhu vaasalaam kOttai > idharkku uththaman pOttaan raaja baattai > munbu irundhaar seidha avakkEttai pOkki > moovulagam ettumaaRu paadinaan oru paattai - > dhyaanamE > > See aazhvaar' lines - > oonidaich chuvar vaiththu enbu thooN naatti urOmam > vEindhu onbadhu vaasal > thaanudaik kurambai piriyum pOdhu unthan charaNamE > charaNam enRu irundhEn > thEnudaik kamalath thiruvinukku arasE thiraikoL maa > nedum kadal kidandhaai > naan udaith thavaththaal thiruvadi adainthEn > naimisaaraththuL enthaai > > - 1 -6 -9 periya thirumozhi of thirumangai aazhvaar > > this 'onbadhu vaasal kOttai' - perhaps this idea is > taken from aazhvaar - aazhvaar says it is a hut - > OVS says fort - both words only different, meaning > wise same. The 9 holed 'body' housing the soul. That > soul only sings kaNNaa, krishNa, hari, aranga maa > nagar uLLaanE, naimisaaraNyaththu endhaai etc. > > see below from thoNdar adip podi aazhvaar - > > maRanchuvar madhiL eduththu maRumaikkE veRumai > pooNdu > puRanchuvar Ottai maadam puraLum pOdhu aRiya > maatteer > aRanchuvar aagi ninRa aranganaarkku aat cheyyaadhE > puRanchuvar kOlam seidhu putkouwak kidakkinReerE - 6 > thirumaalai > > to under stand both verses meaning for few words - > oon - flesh > enbu thooN - elumbuth thooN - bones acting as > pillars to support the body > urOmam - hair > kurambai - kudisai - hut > piriyum pOdhu - while dying - while leaving the body > thiruvinukku arasu - lord of thiru - lord of mahaa > lakshmi - naaraayaNa - my Krishna > maRam chuvar - strong wall - well built body > maRumai - next birth > madhil - fort wall > puRam chuvar Ottai maadam - the outer wall having > holes or windows [maadam is window] > puL kouva - the birds come eat the flesh once dead > > Instead of building a big strong and stout body, do > sing ranganaathan's guNams says aazhvaar. Other > aazhvaar says sing the fame of naimisaaraNyam lord. > OVS says kaNNan - though again words differ it is > all mean same - sing my krishNa. > > On this munbu irundhaar seidha avakkEdu - munbu > irundhavar - who all - the "I" ego - the ahankaaram, > mamakaaram, kaamam, krOdham etc - were living there > in the heart. They created lot of avakkEdu - lot of > damages. > > When this supreme guru - uththaman - purusha > uththaman - krishNa gave the geetha - that became > the raja baattai - the royal road. Result - sing his > name, which echoes in all three worlds - bhagavadh > geetha BG. That is the song OVS refers. > [BG is known in western world as "the song > celestial" translated by Sir Edwin Arnold]. > > CharaNam 2: (madhyama kaalam) > anbu kalandhida azhagu thulangidum > aayiram thooNaal aanadu koodam > aadiyum paadiyum hari guNa maNandha > adiyvarkku ena thiRandha kavaadam > indhriyam ennum anju padi Eri > chinthai enum simhaasanam pODum > en aiyyan vandu amaruvaan paarum > iNai yEdhu kooRum guru padha malar adigaLin - > dhyaanamE > > Keep the heart open to make love. When once that > love intensifies on the lord, naturally the physique > gets beauty along with the heart. Then it leads to > singing and mingling with similar minded. The five > senses also come under control. Once that happens, > the mind allows the lord to come and get seated. For > this route there is no parallel. > > For guru says so - chindhai - simhaasanam - see > nammaazhvaar's lines > aavi thigaikka aivar kumaikkum chiRRinbam > paaviyEnaip pala nee kaattip paduppaayO? > thaavi vaiyam koNda thadam thaamarai katkE > koovik koLLum kaalam innum kuRugaadhO - 6-9-9 nam > aazhvaar > > Since the time has not shortened for getting > released from the clutches of the five senses > aazhvaar wants the early release. For that the route > is palam undhu seeril padimin - take that route > which will hasten the result. What is that 'seer' - > way? > > Open your doors and climb the steps chindhai enum > simmaasanam pOdum - by singing hari gunam for OVS. > asurarai cheRRaan balam padimin - [for the letter pa > in tamil pa ba are same. Rely on His strength]. See > verse > > pulan aindhu mEyum poRi aindhu neengi > nalamindham alladhu Or naadu puguveer > alamandhu veeya asuraraich cheRRaan > palamundhu seeril padimin OvaadhE - 2-8- 4 nam > aazhvaar in thiruvaaimozhi > > Again just consider OVS lines of kavaadam thiRandhu > padi Eri chindhai simmaasanam pOdum to receive the > lord. See here- > > chindhai maRRonRin thiRaththallaath thanmai dhEva > piraan aRiyum > chindhaiyinaal seivadhaanaRiyaadhana maayangaL > onRumillai > chindhaiyinaal sollinaal seigaiyaal nilathdhEvar > kuzhu vaNangum > chindhai magizh thiruvaaRanviLai uRai > theerththanukku aRRa pinnE > - 7-10-10 nammaazhvaar thiruvaai mozhi > > In this verse shift the second line down after four, > like this - then > chindhai maRRonRin thiRaththallaath thanmai dhEva > piraan aRiyum > chindhaiyinaal sollinaal seigaiyaal nilathdhEvar > kuzhu vaNangum > chindhai magizh thiruvaaRanviLai uRai > theerththanukku aRRa pinnE > chindhaiyinaal seivadhaanaRiyaadhana maayangaL > onRumillai > > when once the doors of the mind are open to the > lord, nothing is secret. The lord knows even the > five senses and their leads. So the five steps are > slowly brought under his control and then the lord > leads himself into the heart - so no more wonders. > For that situation iNai Edhu kooRum.[OVS last line]. > > > Thanks to sriman NSR swamin, we could enjoy quite a > good krithi in light of the great aazhvaar > paasurams. For any wrong link or mistake in > interpretation === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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