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Dear sri vaishNava perunthagaiyeer,

We saw the list of donors in vaamana and krishNa avathaarams together-
 which is mor or less same. Now we will see why I come to such a 
conclusion ? it must be understood that sree sukhar has not indicated 
anything about somebody offering gifts to child Vishnu or child 
krishNa. The gifts, which are basically required for a vatu ? a 
brahmachari is given at the upanayanam of sri vaamana. Same list of 
donors is ascribed by aazhvaar as donors to krishNa.  

To conclude that way, dear bhakthaas, again it is not my imagination ?
 aazhvaar himself gives those clues -- from the addressing of the 
child vishNu -- in his padhikam maaNikkam katti ? each verse has that 
addressing --

in the very first verse he says ? maaNikuRaLanE ? meaning vaamananE -
   
in the second ? vaiyam aLanthaanE - thrivikramanE
in third thaamaraik kaNNananE ? that vishNu to vaamanan ? vaamanan to 
thrivikraman ? thrivikraman is vishNu ? the punDareeka aksha: or or 
who has ambuja eekshaNam? now in front as a child of nandha and 
yasOdhaa ? just recall that slokam `tham adhbhutham baalakam ambuja 
eekshaNam'. 
in fourth dhEvakee singamE ? son of dhEvakee ? a confirmation that he 
only has come now as this son of dhEvakee ? which is lord's words ? 
mE vyartham sathyam
in fifth ? maNivaNNanE ? kousthubha dhaari
in sixth ? sOthich chudar mudiyaai ? kreeta dhaari
in seventh ? thirumangai poth thandhaaL kOnE ? thirumangai koNE 
in eighth ? naaraayaNaa ? a straight addressing
in ninth ? aiyaa ? oh lord     

the addressing such as sundharathOlanE, kudandhaik kidanthaanE and 
arangaththu aNaiyaanE are all additional ones. 

In that third verse, another great point is also there 
? en thambiraanaar ezhil thiru maarvarkku ? indhiran thandhu ? to 
that lord who came as  upEndhran ?

en thambiraanaar ezhil thiru maarvaRkku 
sandham azhagiya thaamaraith thaaLaRkku
indhran thaanum ezhiludaik kiNkiNi 
thandhu uvanaay ninRaan thaalElO! thaamaraik kaNNanE! thaalElO! 

Meaning: [as per sri madavakkaNNan swamy ? mail in 2002] 
My God - My Swamy - who has the divine chest where most beautiful 
Mahaa lakshmi resides; who has the eyes of most charming red lotus 
colour; - To You, kaNNaa! dhevEndhran also offered the bright anklets 
(sathangai) for your short, stout cute legs and stood aside happily. 
Oh red lotus eyed Lord! thaalElO! Here PiraaTTi is referred to 
because of her kataaksham (merciful, benevolent glances) dEvEndhran 
attained that status, which was lost earlier.

That word `en thambiraanaar' ? change it slightly to `en 
thambiyaanaar' ? indhran says - to `uPendhran' ? my `younger brother' 
vaamanan. 
But since that word upa is also mean `lord' ? upa in Sanskrit - seen 
in previous post ? so 
en thambiraanaar ? en thambi aanaar, en thambiraan aanaar ? 
thambiraan is thalaivan ? leader - so also indhra came and gave to 
his brother, leader vaamana. So again it is vaamana.

If this mention is only once I agree it is for krishNa only ? since 
krishNa is the supreme lord to aazhvaar he might have mentioned about 
vaamana for it is also an avathaaram of same lord - but when all 9 
paasurams are having ? it is not an `also came' instance ? but 
intentional ? hey I am giving that list of vaamana but changing to 
krishNa about whom I am singing ? that changing is in the last verse ?
 10th ? aaichchi thaalaatiya sol pudhuvai battan sol.  

Perhaps, dear bhakthaas, you also agree with me in the above. Let 
that aazhvaar and his lord our lord krishNa make us trouble free ? 
that is what aazhvaar also says ? illai idar thane.

Vaamana dhaasan - cum - krishNa dhaasan
Vasudevan m.g.

PS: with this I think we can colclude this series. When I was going 
thru that third sargam in 10th skandham and 18th sargam of 8th 
skandham ? it just opened up in me and I shared it with you all. 
Thank you all, and the moderators in particular, who allowed this 
series to appear in the lists. 




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