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Shrimate ramanujaya nama:

Dear nappinnai_nc:

> This is in response to your post. Did you
> choose your 
> parents? NO. 

Let us call it statement-A.

Similarly you didn't choose Lord
> Narayana rather He 
> chose you:-) 

Let us call it statement-B.

I accept statement-A to be true. Even so, how
statement-B logically follows from statement-A? The
chooser might be Allah or Yahweh instead of Lord
Narayana right :)

Had your parents be roman
> catholics,your chances of 
> becoming a SV,mathematically speaking, is 50-50.

The odds are sadly stacked against us and in favour of
christians. Lot of people are converting to
christianity than people converting to vaishnavism (
and even less if any to Ramanuja Siddhantam )!
Refer theses sites :) They seem to have a clear-cut
plan!
1) http://www.ad2000.org/uters1.htm
2) http://www.goodnewsforindia.org/about.htm

> Otherwise it all 
> depends on His grace. No religion is as subtle and
> profound as our 
> religion. 

A claim that could be made by a christian, Muslim or
Zorastrian :)

In the case of chiristianity,it is not
> enough if I have 
> faith in Jesus but I need to get converted/baptised
> and only then can 
> I go to heaven or attain salvation. So is true with
> other religions.

Right-on!


> But this is not the case in our religion. A person
> becomes a SV by 
> conduct and of course faith in Sriman Narayana. The
> samAshrayaNam or 
> pancasamskAram is not the "means" and I don't attain
> salvation b'coz 
> of these! 


Probably this is our weakness!

> 
> Conversion does not work in our case.
> Without forcing others 
> we have been sustaining for ages without any
> external support.

Yes! But for how long? Pakistan and Bangladesh were
carved out of Bharat only recently. Foreign forces are
feeding anti-Indian sentiment to North-East Indian
tribals and they want a separate Isiastan or
christistan ( NLFT, ULTRA, ULFA terrorists anyone ? )

> We had 
> been ruled by many but still our religion is rich
> and hasn't lost any 
> of its spiritual richness due to foreign invasion.

Past success is noway an indication of future
performance ? :) The Greek civilization thrived for
many centuries. What happened to it now? Is it
anything more than a mere museum curiosity?

> Just because we 
> are not able to comprehend this universe,it doesn't
> mean that it's 
> existence is meaningless. 

I do not understand Swahili. So, I cannot understand a
Swahili sentence from a meaningless blabbering. 
So, if you yourself agree that we cannot comprehend
the meaning of universe, "for all practical purposes"
it is meaningless right ? :)


>Scientists forget the fact
> they are trying 
> to solve the mystery/problem of this universe of
> which they 
> themselves are a part of the solution to be
> determined:-)

This is a statement that could mean a lot of things.
Please be more specific :)

I apologize if my reply was offensive in any way.

Regards,
KK

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