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Sri: Respected Adiyaars, I have been following the posts on the concept of 
Casteism. I am throwing in my two cents, or rather something less worthy. * 
Acarya means, "to lead by example". One of the main Acaryas in our Guru 
Paramparai is Nammazhwaar. He belongs to the "fourth caste". Well, his 
"Uyarvara Uyarnalam..", the BANGING statement roars with SriVaishnavism!! Well, 
if somebody is not ready to accept Sri Kurugoor Nambi as an Acharya because of 
his "lower birth", well in my humble opinion, he ceases to be a SriVaishnavan. 
Period. * (Suppose) If Thirukkachi Nambigal enters the madappalli to make 
Puliyodharai prasadam for perumal (assuming), will one refuse to offer it to 
perumal?? Or, will one refuse to eat that puliyodarai, yet worse, will one even 
let him into the madappalli?? Well if thats the case, I pity that person. * 
Thirumangayazhwar says, "VAdinen VAdi...", he went after all material pursuits 
before surrendering to Sriman NArAyaNa, I doubt if he was a brahmin by birth. 
Neither were ThiruppANar, Kulashekharar, NammAzhwAr, BhakthisArar. Can some 
SriVaishnavan choose to omit their pasurams in the 4000 because of their 
birth?? * Thulukka Nachiyar. A muslim by birth, and we have a sannidhi for her. 
* According to the VarAha Purana, AsurAs are born in the brahmin families 
during Kaliyuga. * "Kalau Sudhra Samudbhavah", lets not forget this statement 
which means, "everybody is a Sudhra in the Kaliyuga". * In the Bhagavad Gita, 
Perumal says "Vidhya vinaya Sampanne ... Panditah Sama Darshinah", Which means 
that a learned person, sees the same entity (soul) in a dog, a dog eater, and 
even a brahmana!! * Lord RAmA was a Kshatriya by birth, so was SriKrishna, who 
was also a Yadava by his actions. If one wants to brand everything, how will he 
brand Lord Narasimha?? Funny, ain't it?? * RAmAnujar broke the concept of 
Casteism to Shambles, I mean he is most famous for his revolution with respect 
to overthrowing caste barriers, than even his SriBhAshyam, lets not forget 
that. And what do we call ourselves?? Oh!! Ok, I gotit, "Ramanuja SampradayA"!! 
*Personally I would rather read AzhwArs' Arulicheyals than reading Pancharatra 
Vidhis to brand who is a "Brahmana" and who is not. * Kali is progressing at a 
rapid rate. We have so many diseases. So many problems, and the worse is yet to 
come. Let us enjoy the unity of the adiyaars in glorifying Sriman NArAyanA, 
than fighting with each other, "I am thenkalai, you are vadakalai, I am a 
brahmin, you are not" * Especially the TK sampradayam is known for its 
catholicity and leniency towards caste (by birth) issues. It really pains my 
heart when I see caste-based feuds, and TKs who still stick to the "holier than 
thou" attitude, just because he is a brahmana by birth. * Brahmana?? My foot. 
The next time any "Brahmin" in this forum opens his mouth about his Caste, I 
request him to kindly do some introspection, have a mini flashback. How many 
movies he had seen. How many "double-meaning" and vulgar jokes he had enjoyed. 
How many ladies he had drooled on. How many clubs he had been to. How many lies 
he had uttered. How many transgressions he had committed. How many people he 
had hurt. How many times he had exhibited arrogant behaviour. How many bad 
words (or should I say, "Curse words") he had uttered. How many times he had 
smoked or "sipped". * Let us please leave this bane of casteism far behind and 
move on. We have lots to learn, Nirhetuka Kripai is still hanging in the forum 
for discussion. I want the translations and vyakyanams for 
"Thiruppalliyezhuchi" and many more pasurams. Discussing "Brahmin-non-brahmin", 
or "Thenkalai-Vadakalai" is shameful to say the least. * If I maybe pardoned, 
Swami Deiskan is worthy of the same respect that we give to Swami ManavAla 
MAmunigal, or even Pillai LOkAcharyar. Does it really matter if Swami Desikan 
wrote a Sthuthi on PL or vice versa?? Even if one wrote a Sthuthi on the other, 
does it make him any inferior?? Why do we brand Swami Desikan as a VK and then 
deal with him and his works with such an attitude?? Will Swami MM be happy 
then, or even Swami PL?? Why should we bother about these issues and do 
"extensive research" to prove that it was SD who wrote the Lokacharya 
Panchasat, seriously, what is the big deal??? So what, are we trying to say, 
"Ha!! I told you so, so SD is inferior"?? * Finally if I may, ThiruppANAzhwar 
just said, "AmalanAdippiran, adiyArkku ennai Atpaduthiya vimalan", and he 
didn't say, "THENKALAI adiyaarkku.." or "VADAKALAI adiyaarkku..." * Kindly 
excuse me for anything hurtful or offensive or arrogant that is obseved. Also, 
sorry for my ramblings. AzwAr emperumanAr JIyar ThiruvadigalE saranam. Adiyen 
Dasan, Kidambi SoundararAjan.


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