Hi All, As far I know, there are samhithas for guiding the Agamas as to how they have to be followed. Famous Pancharathra Samhithas are Lakshmi Tantram, Ahirbudnya Samhitha, Sathvatha Samhitha. Similar there are vaikhanasa samhithas too, which explain these.Ex: Vaikhanasa Samhitha. Panchrathrins : They undergo Samashrayanam and deeksha procedure to become Agamikas. Any person can become a pancharathrin. There are some good examples of Advaithins in Bangalore, who have become Pancharathra Agamikas. Vaikhanasa : They are termed as Garbha SriVaishnavas. They need not undergo deekhsa procedure. A person born into the family of Vaikhanasa Agamikas can become a Vaikhanas Agamika, not all. The procedure of performing aaraadhanam in temples is different for both. Vaikhanasa perform aaraadhanam in Khandams, where Pancharathrins perform aaraadhanam in a procdure similar to gruhaarchanam. Pancharathrins are said to be disciples of Shandilya Mahamuni. Vaikhanasas are said to be disciples of Vikhanasa Mahamuni. Also , the way the 26 Maha Tatvas are installed to the SriMurthi are very different. I have come across another form of Srivaishnava Agamas followed in North India. Mahanths follow it. They term the agamas as Agneya Agamas. Regards Thuphal Vijayaraghavan. -----Original Message----- From: srinivasa chary [mailto:srinivasadasa@xxxx] Sent: Tue 1/27/2004 5:27 PM To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Subject: Re: [ramanuja] Re: Agamas Dear Sri Kasturi Rangan, SrImathE RAmAnujAya namaha. I am under the impression that apart from Vaikhanasa Kalpa sUtra literature, there are Vaikhanasa texts provided by chief disciples of Sri Vikhanasa Muni, such as Bhrigu, MArIchi etc. normally referred to as Vaikhanasa samhitas. I heard that they are generally treated as authoritative texts for all practical issues of Vaikhanasa temple rituals. Do you have any more info in this direction? By the way, what are these "pratishThasAram and vignyAnalalitA"? Who practises them? Adiyen Srinivasa dasa amshuman_k <amshuman_k@xxxx> wrote: > > > >Vaishnava Agamas: I've heard about 4 of them -- pAncharAtram, > >vaikhAnasam, pratishThasAram and vignyAnalalitA. > > > >Though vaikhAnasam is termed as a vaishNava Agama, I haven't come > >across a text called vaikhAnasam that is strictly Agamam. What exist > >are these - vaikhAnasa srauta sUtra, grihya sUtra and dharma sUtra. > >vaikhAnasa sUtra belongs to taittriya shAkhA of krishNa yajur-veda > >(the most 'popular' sutras are Apastambha & BaudhAyana for this > >shAkha). This should answer your last question - you cannot become a > >vaikhAnasa just by getting trained in it. You have to born in a > >vaikhAnasa family (just like you cannot arbitrarily jump from > >following say Apastambha sUtra to BaudhAyana). > > > >The fact that vaikhAnasa sUtra deals with VishNu worship with all the > >associated sectarian rites, it may be (rightly or wrongly) classified > >as an Agama, though strictly, it is a kalpa sUtra. > > > >(This shouldn't be surprising - Kalpa sUtras and parishishThas > >mention worship of sectarian deities. If I remember correctly, > >Ashvalayana grihya sutra mentions worship of ganesha, shiva, umA. > >Atharva veda parishishTha talks about skanda yaga that involves > >images of skanda & pAshupata vrata.) > > > >Relation between Agamas & Sri VaishNavAs: > >If you mean the followers of Shri RamanujachArya as 'Sri VaishNavAs', > >most probably they would be pAncharAtrins. vaikhAnaAs, despite being > >vaishNavAs, need not belong to our guru parampara. > > > >Why some temples follow one as opposed to other: > >I don't have concrete answers for this. Probably, the king or > >chieftain who built it decided this ( the availability of local > >brahmins to function in temples might have dictated which Agama was > >favored). We have examples in history on temples that switched from > >vaikhAnasa to pAncharAtra. > > > >Two different procedures or separate sects? > >vaikhAnasa & pAncharAtra are quite distinct. > > > >Regards, > >Kasturi Rangan .K > > > >--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, badri narayanan <b11_narayanan@xxxx> > >wrote: > > > Do all vaishnava temples in North India also fall under Vaikhanasa > >or Pancaratra Agamas?. > > > > > > What is the basis for following any one partcular agama.Why do some > >temples follow Vaikhanasa and others Pancaratra. > > > > > > Do vaikhanasa and Pancratra simply denote two different procedures > >or are they a separate sects? > > > > > > What is their relation with SriVaishnavas?. > > > > > > Can anyone who is learned in these agama sastras can become temple > >priest?, or is there any restriction? > > > > > > regds > > > Badri > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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