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Dear Sri Srinivasa Dasa,

I am vaguely aware of texts like marichi-samhita but don't have 
relevant details. I'll dig up my references and revert back. 
Unfortunately, I do not have references for vignyAnalalitha and 
pratishThasara right now.

Regards,
Kasturi Rangan .K

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, srinivasa chary <srinivasadasa@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Dear Sri Kasturi Rangan,
> SrImathE RAmAnujAya namaha.
> 
> I am under the impression that apart from Vaikhanasa Kalpa 
sUtra literature, there are Vaikhanasa texts provided by chief 
disciples of Sri Vikhanasa Muni, such as Bhrigu, MArIchi etc. 
normally referred to as Vaikhanasa samhitas. I heard that they are 
generally treated as authoritative texts for all practical issues of 
Vaikhanasa temple rituals. Do you have any more info in this 
direction? By the way, what are these "pratishThasAram and 
vignyAnalalitA"? Who practises them?
> 
> Adiyen
> Srinivasa dasa 
> 
> amshuman_k <amshuman_k@xxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >Vaishnava Agamas: I've heard about 4 of them -- pAncharAtram,
> > >vaikhAnasam, pratishThasAram and vignyAnalalitA.
> > >
> > >Though vaikhAnasam is termed as a vaishNava Agama, I haven't come
> > >across a text called vaikhAnasam that is strictly Agamam. What 
> exist
> > >are these - vaikhAnasa srauta sUtra, grihya sUtra and dharma 
sUtra.
> > >vaikhAnasa sUtra belongs to taittriya shAkhA of krishNa yajur-
veda
> > >(the most 'popular' sutras are Apastambha & BaudhAyana for this
> > >shAkha). This should answer your last question - you cannot 
become 
> a
> > >vaikhAnasa just by getting trained in it. You have to born in a
> > >vaikhAnasa family (just like you cannot arbitrarily jump from
> > >following say Apastambha sUtra to BaudhAyana).
> > >
> > >The fact that vaikhAnasa sUtra deals with VishNu worship with 
all 
> the
> > >associated sectarian rites, it may be (rightly or wrongly) 
> classified
> > >as an Agama, though strictly, it is a kalpa sUtra.
> > >
> > >(This shouldn't be surprising - Kalpa sUtras and parishishThas
> > >mention worship of sectarian deities. If I remember correctly,
> > >Ashvalayana grihya sutra mentions worship of ganesha, shiva, umA.
> > >Atharva veda parishishTha talks about skanda yaga that involves
> > >images of skanda & pAshupata vrata.)
> > >
> > >Relation between Agamas & Sri VaishNavAs:
> > >If you mean the followers of Shri RamanujachArya as 'Sri 
> VaishNavAs',
> > >most probably they would be pAncharAtrins. vaikhAnaAs, despite 
> being
> > >vaishNavAs, need not belong to our guru parampara.
> > >
> > >Why some temples follow one as opposed to other:
> > >I don't have concrete answers for this. Probably, the king or
> > >chieftain who built it decided this ( the availability of local
> > >brahmins to function in temples might have dictated which Agama 
was
> > >favored). We have examples in history on temples that switched 
from
> > >vaikhAnasa to pAncharAtra.
> > >
> > >Two different procedures or separate sects?
> > >vaikhAnasa & pAncharAtra are quite distinct.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Kasturi Rangan .K
> > >
> > >--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, badri narayanan 
> <b11_narayanan@xxxx>
> > >wrote:
> > > > Do all vaishnava temples in North India also fall under 
> Vaikhanasa
> > >or Pancaratra Agamas?.
> > > >
> > > > What is the basis for following any one partcular agama.Why 
do 
> some
> > >temples follow Vaikhanasa and others Pancaratra.
> > > >
> > > > Do vaikhanasa and Pancratra simply denote two different 
> procedures
> > >or are they a separate sects?
> > > >
> > > > What is their relation with SriVaishnavas?.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone who is learned in these agama sastras can become 
> temple
> > >priest?, or is there any restriction?
> > > >
> > > > regds
> > > > Badri
> > > >
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