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Sri TCA's clarification
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:50 PM
Subject: [Oppiliappan] Re: Bhattar

Sri:

Dear Sri Padmanabhan and Sri Sudarshan Swamins,

The almost same question and answer dialog as in
Thiruppavai pasuram 25 is given in Periya Thirumozhi
(pasuram 5-10-7) vyakhyanam.

Bhattar is quoted as saying "avarkaLukku mulai
suravA ninRathAkil ivan anjA ninRAnAkil umakku
ivvArAycchi enthAn?"

I think the use of the word "ArAycchi" here rather
than the word "sEtham" perhaps makes it clear what
Bhattar's intent is. It appears that Bhattar is
pointing out that there is no need to do intense
research on who Krishna's true mother was, who
gave milk to Him and why, etc. It is best to simply
enjoy the Lord's acts as explained by Azhvars and
Acharyas.

You can see the translation of the whole dialog
between Nanjeeyar (who asked the question) and
Bhattar at

http://www.acharya.org/articles/aditlooa/aditlooa068.html

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan


--- Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear SwAmi,
>
> Usually sri bhattar reply will be in a manner where the
> essence of the doubt is clarified precisely.
>
> For example, when somebody asked in the context of the
> thiru-vioi-mozhip pAsuram "AnAllan, pen allan",  What is
> the gender of the Lord then? kindly refer to EDu for
> thiru-voi-mozhi pAsuram 2-5-10;
>
> sri bhattar incisively clarified that He is the supreme
> purushothaman the paramAthmA in contrast to the
> jEvAthmAs.
>
> However, here instead of such repliy, the reply is" How
> are you the loser?" "..vumakkuch sEdham en?"
>
> This is rare as when we see sri bhattar's precise
> clarificiations,
> such type of replies are rare.
>
> The cynical reply makes this interesting. Perhpas, the
> quesitoner might have asked not with a view of getting
> clarification but with a view of finding fault or finding
> contradictions.(of course this is my conjecture)
>
> Thank YOu
>
> rAmAnuja dAsan
> vanamamalai padmanabhan
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sudarshan madabushi
>   To: Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Oppiliappan] Bhattar
>
>
>
>   --- Message: 1        
>   >    Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:01:51 +0530
>   >    From: Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxxxxxx>
>   > Subject: thiruppAvai 25
>   > HOW ARE YOU THE LOSER?
>   >> The reply was " If mother's milk cannot spring from
>   > her and He does not drink milk" are you the loser?
>   > 'avaLukku mulai suravA ninradhAgil, ivan amudhu
>   > mulai vuNNA ninRAnAgil, vumakkuch chEdham en?'
>   > In fact, this kind of reply is a rarity but
>   > intersting.
>   > (to be continued)
>   > vanamamalai padmanabhan
>
>   Dear Member,
>   It is not clear from the above what exactly Bhattar
>   meant, though the question posed to him seems
>   reasonable enough. Request you to please elaborate.
>   Would also like to appreciate that bit you call is a
>   "rarity and interesting".
>   Thank you,
>   respectfully,
>
>   dAsan,
>   Sudarshan
>
>
>

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