Sri: SrimathE RAmAnujAya nama: Dear Sri Venkatesh, I'm happy to see another person in the same path that I'm walking. > even I was trying to gather information and have sent a copy of > this message from Sri Dileepan to Sri Puttur Krishnaswamy Iyengar > of Sri Vaishnava Sudarsanam fame. No one needs an introduction of > him as he is the present day doyen of our sampradhAyam > and the numerous articles and books published by him regarding the > false proclamations made are still to be answered convincingly. Please let us know what Sri Puttur Krishnaswamy iyengar says. We need to educate ourselves with the right knowledge > While I could have refuted the postings regarding the prapatti > and the varNAsrama dharma, Sri Vacchana bhooshaNam and AchArya > hrudhayam, very clearly and deliberately misinterpreted, I wanted > to take the opinion of a scholarly person who has devoted his life > to this. Again I am planning to disturb two very busy persons, > Sri Velukkudi swamy and Sri M.A Venkatakrishnan swamy to get their > advise also on this. I will post about this shortly. Please do so. We need them and their inputs so badly. I'm planning to send a personal mail to HH Tridandi Sri Ramanuja Chinna Jeeyar. Despite the busy schedule HH Sri Jeeyar patiently answers some of my questions. I'm very very happy that you responded and I have lesser knowledge than what you have. I also went through TiruNarayanan's post. That gave me the strength to take a step forward. > Ramanuja and expounded by embAr, bhaTTar, nanjeeyar, nampiLLai, > periyavAcchAn piLLai, vadakkuth thiruveedhip piLLai, piLLai > lOkAchAryar/azhagiya maNavALa perumAL nAyanAr and thiruvAimozhippiLLai as > dearest to his heart. Is there a copy of GPP3000 with you? I started reading GPP6000 and then I put it on a sidetrack. Now the situation needs it badly. I'm going to first finish reading that and I'm going to come back to all you to clear my doubts. I don't have any proper knowledge of ThennAchArya sampradAyam. > Also in his upadEsaratthinamAlai, nowhere he has mentioned about Swamy > dEsikan. One may say that he had glorified only those AchAryAs who were > instrumental in propagation of ThiruvAimozhi, but I am sure a person would > have certainly included an AchAryA without any doubt, whether he has > commented on ThiruvAimozhi or not, if that person asks everybody to follow > the sampradhAyam of that AchAryA. Isn't it? Common sense and logic. Again This always puzzled me. Why maNavALa mAmnuigaL didn't mention swami desikan in Upadesha RatnamAlai? We need to quote Swami Desikan's work itself to refute their views. But we need the help of Scholars in this area. > Well these are all considering and accepting that Swami dEsikan followed a > completely different sampradhAyam other than the thennAchArya sampradhAyam. > But in one of the earlier postings I had clearly shown, how, Swamy dEsikan > supports only the thennAchArya sampradhAyam, through the slOka, "swAmin!, > swasEsham..." and the avatharikai for the "munivAhana bhOgam" where in he > clearly states that "kAraNa vasthu innadhendRu aRudhiyidamudiyAtha > krupaiyinAlE", speaking clearly about the nirhEtuka krupA of emberumAn. Beautiful,such verses we need to shut up the mouths. > Now if one accepts that swAmy dEsikan was advocating only thennAchAryA > sampradhAyam, then there is no wonder, Sri maNavALa mAmunigAL was asking > everyone to follow what Sri Desikan have said. Absolutely right. Just my mere question in reply to someone else' post on bhara-nyAsa,triggered the ego of Sri V Sadagopan. He says he feels sorry that somebody(me and he is replying to my post only) speaks ill of Swami Desikan. I didn't speak ill of swami desikan. All I tried to explain was the "greatness of God/Nirhetuka krpA". For this itself he got offended,what about the atrocities happening in kanjeevaram,that too put "vadakalai nAmam" for RAmAnujA Himself. Will not that affect us? I got couple of mails supporting Sri V Sadagopan (those people follow Desika sampradAyam). How they get united??!!!! Even Bhagavad RAmAnujA couldn't unite people that easily! What about other temples where they change the thenkalai namam to a vadakalai namam. One Vadakalai boy is sending me a mail saying that I need humility. He didn't answer my question to kanjeevaram. He quotes Sri Velukkudi Krishnan swami(saying that even Sri Krishnan Swami always quotes Swami Desikans works). When I asked him whether it was out of humility they change the namams,there is no reply to that! They have infinite ego! > Having said all the above I would also like to request all the > members to read through the postings of Sri Thirunarayanan > Parthasarathy swamy who was to have posted the first rebuttal to > it in a very very diplomatic manner. Most of the "concoctions" will > come to light clearly. As said, once I get a response from Sri > Puttur Swamy, Sri Velukkudi swamy and Sri MAV swamy, I will post > them too in the list. Sri TiruNarayanan Parthasarathy's post was wonderful. But I wrote this post(without referring to Sri Parthasarathy)just out of my love for AzhwArs,pUrvAchAryAs true devotion to God. Why don't you post these things once in a while since you have more knowledge than what I have. I felt very happy to read Sr Tirunarayanan's remark on sri parthasarathy dileepan(dual-natured articles!) AzhwAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam sarvam krSNArpaNam astu gita
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